Thread: 2009-10 Hot Stove Baseball

Originally Posted by Jimbo

I'm still not sure why the Tigers are trying to trade thier BEST players .....

Jackson, Granderson even Cabrera has been mentioned ....

Maybe they liked losing over 100 games a year

Yes, its a fire sale even though they wont admit it, they still had good attendence last year dispite the economy. Appears the deal is real close, about done

Yanks, Tigers, DBacks make 3-way deal

INDIANAPOLIS --
Curtis Granderson

is headed to the
Yankees


, but the
Tigers


also appear to have made out well in the first big trade of the winter meetings.

The Yankees, Tigers and
Diamondbacks


have completed a complicated three-team deal that also sends All-Star pitcher
Edwin Jackson


to the Diamondbacks, sources told CBSSports.com. Granderson goes to New York, Jackson and
Ian Kennedy


(from the Yankees) go to Arizona, and the Tigers get four players who could all open the 2010 season on their major-league roster.

The Tigers get outfielder
Austin Jackson


and left-handed reliever
Phil Coke


from the Yankees, and get pitchers
Max Scherzer


and
Daniel Schlereth


from the Diamondbacks.

"I like every one of the four," said one rival major-league executive who has seen all the players. "What a haul."

The Tigers, who play in a city with a struggling economy and are saddled with several bad contracts, begin a transformation that they hope will keep them competitive in 2010, while setting them up to be in much better shape in 2011.

In Granderson, the Yankees get a left-handed hitting outfielder who some scouts believe could approach 40 home runs in Yankee Stadium. They would lessen the need to re-sign Johnny Damon, or put a lot more pressure on Damon to accept a shorter and cheaper deal if he wants to remain.

The Tigers get a starter to replace Edwin Jackson (Scherzer), and an outfielder to replace Granderson (Austin Jackson).

The Diamondbacks get a more proven starting pitcher (Edwin Jackson), who has 27 wins the last two years and could thrive in the National League West.

Originally Posted by BillD1984

Yanks, Tigers, DBacks make 3-way deal

INDIANAPOLIS --
Curtis Granderson

is headed to the
Yankees


, but the
Tigers


also appear to have made out well in the first big trade of the winter meetings.

The Yankees, Tigers and
Diamondbacks


have completed a complicated three-team deal that also sends All-Star pitcher
Edwin Jackson


to the Diamondbacks, sources told CBSSports.com. Granderson goes to New York, Jackson and
Ian Kennedy


(from the Yankees) go to Arizona, and the Tigers get four players who could all open the 2010 season on their major-league roster.

The Tigers get outfielder
Austin Jackson


and left-handed reliever
Phil Coke


from the Yankees, and get pitchers
Max Scherzer


and
Daniel Schlereth


from the Diamondbacks.

"I like every one of the four," said one rival major-league executive who has seen all the players. "What a haul."

The Tigers, who play in a city with a struggling economy and are saddled with several bad contracts, begin a transformation that they hope will keep them competitive in 2010, while setting them up to be in much better shape in 2011.

In Granderson, the Yankees get a left-handed hitting outfielder who some scouts believe could approach 40 home runs in Yankee Stadium. They would lessen the need to re-sign Johnny Damon, or put a lot more pressure on Damon to accept a shorter and cheaper deal if he wants to remain.

The Tigers get a starter to replace Edwin Jackson (Scherzer), and an outfielder to replace Granderson (Austin Jackson).

The Diamondbacks get a more proven starting pitcher (Edwin Jackson), who has 27 wins the last two years and could thrive in the National League West.

Thanks for your solid play in the outfield Mr. Granderson, should be an intresting "Tiger Fest" in January

Originally Posted by BillD1984

Yanks, Tigers, DBacks make 3-way deal

INDIANAPOLIS --
Curtis Granderson

is headed to the
Yankees


, but the
Tigers


also appear to have made out well in the first big trade of the winter meetings.

The Yankees, Tigers and
Diamondbacks


have completed a complicated three-team deal that also sends All-Star pitcher
Edwin Jackson


to the Diamondbacks, sources told CBSSports.com. Granderson goes to New York, Jackson and
Ian Kennedy


(from the Yankees) go to Arizona, and the Tigers get four players who could all open the 2010 season on their major-league roster.

The Tigers get outfielder
Austin Jackson


and left-handed reliever
Phil Coke


from the Yankees, and get pitchers
Max Scherzer


and
Daniel Schlereth


from the Diamondbacks.

"I like every one of the four," said one rival major-league executive who has seen all the players. "What a haul."

The Tigers, who play in a city with a struggling economy and are saddled with several bad contracts, begin a transformation that they hope will keep them competitive in 2010, while setting them up to be in much better shape in 2011.

In Granderson, the Yankees get a left-handed hitting outfielder who some scouts believe could approach 40 home runs in Yankee Stadium. They would lessen the need to re-sign Johnny Damon, or put a lot more pressure on Damon to accept a shorter and cheaper deal if he wants to remain.

The Tigers get a starter to replace Edwin Jackson (Scherzer), and an outfielder to replace Granderson (Austin Jackson).

The Diamondbacks get a more proven starting pitcher (Edwin Jackson), who has 27 wins the last two years and could thrive in the National League West.

Tigers got Austin Jackson, here's hoping he's the real thing, you never know with yankees prospects. Phil Coke was a good move, had not heard about him coming till later tonight.

You mentioned something about them having a bunch of bad contracts .... the guys they traded were NONE of them, so they got rid of a few of RELIABLE and YOUNG guys, but hung on to thier BAD contracts.

You will be sorely missed Mr. Granderson.

Aas far as pitching goes, we had a very good 1-2 punch with Verlander and Jackson, now that punch is gone, they have JV and a bunch of number 3-4 pitchers, hope they plan on getting another top of the rotation guy, or they won't last long this year.

The Yankees get a solid player, and they didn't have to break the bank.

Originally Posted by SabresRule

The Yankees get a solid player, and they didn't have to break the bank.

Tigers KEEP all thier BAD CONTRACTS ....
Thought that was the idea, to unload some of them, Granderson and Jackson were NEITHER of the bad contracts.

Normally you would get rid of one of them as part of the package, but not the Tigers .... then again, they don't seem to care ....... all they want is to drop payroll.

Wonder if they are attempting to finish what they started in '03 when they went for the Single season LOSS record and came close, maybe this year they will get it ....
120 or there about is what they are shooting for.

I was really looking forward to baseball season, hoping tey would make a few more moves to strengthen the line up and play with the big boys, but that is a pipe dream it looks like.....
I'm really tired of the Tigers picking up PROSPECTS, once they start to do something they trade them away.
Will they EVER decide to try to play with the big boys and STAY there.

I know they are not the only team to do this, but it seems like once they get rolling in the right direction, instead of improving they decide to dump everyone.

They had NO reason to get rid of Jackson, other than he had another year and BORIS is his agent, thats it, the contract was fine and he was young.
They always talk about getting younger, well Granderson is 29 and Jackson is 26.
They got rid of NONE of the OLDER GUYS....... yet.

Sort of Hot Stove news, from a media perspective:

[ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4725366"]Peter Gammons leaving ESPN baseball after 20 years - ESPN[/ame]

Peter Gammons is leaving ESPN following the end of baseball's winter meetings this week.

Gammons said he is joining MLB Network. In addition, he will become an analyst and reporter for NESN, the regional sports network in New England affiliated with the owners of the Boston Red Sox.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

I'm still not sure why the Tigers are trying to trade thier BEST players .....

Jackson, Granderson even Cabrera has been mentioned ....

Maybe they liked losing over 100 games a year

Sounds to me like a money move. Just like the Indians have been doing. The economy is in the tank and owners of these mid-market teams have no choice than to get what they can for their budding stars before they leave to the highest bidder and get nothing in return.

Reason #562 on why the MLB needs a salary cap.

Originally Posted by BillD1984

Yanks, Tigers, DBacks make 3-way deal

INDIANAPOLIS --
Curtis Granderson

is headed to the
Yankees


, but the
Tigers


also appear to have made out well in the first big trade of the winter meetings.

The Yankees, Tigers and
Diamondbacks


have completed a complicated three-team deal that also sends All-Star pitcher
Edwin Jackson


to the Diamondbacks, sources told CBSSports.com. Granderson goes to New York, Jackson and
Ian Kennedy


(from the Yankees) go to Arizona, and the Tigers get four players who could all open the 2010 season on their major-league roster.

The Tigers get outfielder
Austin Jackson


and left-handed reliever
Phil Coke


from the Yankees, and get pitchers
Max Scherzer


and
Daniel Schlereth


from the Diamondbacks.

"I like every one of the four," said one rival major-league executive who has seen all the players. "What a haul."

The Tigers, who play in a city with a struggling economy and are saddled with several bad contracts, begin a transformation that they hope will keep them competitive in 2010, while setting them up to be in much better shape in 2011.

In Granderson, the Yankees get a left-handed hitting outfielder who some scouts believe could approach 40 home runs in Yankee Stadium. They would lessen the need to re-sign Johnny Damon, or put a lot more pressure on Damon to accept a shorter and cheaper deal if he wants to remain.

The Tigers get a starter to replace Edwin Jackson (Scherzer), and an outfielder to replace Granderson (Austin Jackson).

The Diamondbacks get a more proven starting pitcher (Edwin Jackson), who has 27 wins the last two years and could thrive in the National League West.

Do you really think that Austin Jacksons going to step right in and play better than Granderson ?
If he was that good the yanks would not have let him go.

I've never heard of the pitcher from the diamondbacks.
Schlereth is Marks son, he was a rookie last year, so he's not proven either.

Tigers got a bunch of maybe's for Granderson and Jackson, and to believe some have said the Tigers made out on the deal.

I for one am tired of the Wait for NEXT YEAR theory.