Thread: tiger woods in car crash

Originally Posted by iceturkee

you do realize that whitlock is black, right?

I don't care if he's fuschia. What he said minimizes actual racial discrimination going on in this country.


Sandra

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

Note to Sandra....

HOW do you know race is not a part of it? Honestly...

I already spoke to that.

2ndly, ALL of the athletes you mentioned were NEVER chased around about infidelity as bad as Tiger.

Because their main issues were about steroids, not infidelity. Don't narrow ther subject.

When their infidelities were aired out, it was done in a couple of days...a week max. But this is gone strong for 2 weeks with LITTLE sign of letting up. SO this thing about being covered "with eqaul vigor" is ridiculous at best.

This is not an infidelity issue when you compare it to Clemens and A-Rod, so don't make it that. Infidelity was a peripheral issue with A-Rod, the main issue was steroids.

The comparison I made is how the press badgered Clemens and A-Rod just as much as they badgered Tiger, so it is not a racial issue.

Which brings us back to the fact that a writer turning this into a racial issue minimizes the persecution of those who are actully discriminated against.


Sandra

Originally Posted by SandraC

I already spoke to that.



Because their main issues were about steroids, not infidelity. Don't narrow ther subject.



This is not an infidelity issue when you compare it to Clemens and A-Rod, so don't make it that. Infidelity was a peripheral issue with A-Rod, the main issue was steroids.

The comparison I made is how the press badgered Clemens and A-Rod just as much as they badgered Tiger, so it is not a racial issue.

Which brings us back to the fact that a writer turning this into a racial issue minimizes the persecution of those who are actully discriminated against.


Sandra

Boy, you are so off it's scary. The ONLY issues that the Tiger issue is IS infidelity. And NOTHING to do with steriods...

When I talked with sociologist Dr. Harry Edwards, he addressed the racial dynamic more seriously.

"If Elin were black, this would be on the scale of Mike Tyson and Robin Givens," Dr. Edwards explained. "It would've lasted a while and then it would just go away."

That may sound preposterous to some, but it's not. The media and the public overreact to whatever crimes/unfairness befall an attractive white woman (Natalee Holloway). Jordan, Ali and Magic all managed to play on their black wives without receiving much criticism. Shaquille O'Neal just finished off the remaining credible pieces of his marriage to a black woman by allegedly having an ongoing affair with Gilbert Arenas' fiancee. No one cares. But this brown-skinned golfer is facing ruin because he cheated on his white wife.

Hmmmmm...makes ya think...

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

The ONLY issues that the Tiger issue is IS infidelity. And NOTHING to do with steriods...

No kidding. The comparison is that the media has gone after Tiger with the same vigor that they went after Clemens and A-Rod regarding steroids. Equal opportunity badgering.

And they do it because it's news, not because Tiger is brown-skinned. You can mention race all you want, I don't buy it and I don't think many others do either.


Sandra

For this to go away, or at least get off the front page, Tiger will have to do a real public mea culpa, not like the scripted one written by his PR staff where he tried to portray himself as the victim. Hey, how about an Oprah interview!! It's worked for countless other famous people in the same situation. As a people, we may not forgive but we will eventually forget.

Throwing money at people to keep quiet and putting up legal obstacles only makes the situation worse.

Until then, the tote board count of women linked to him will continue to grow as well as all of the other soap opera stuff swirling around.

Of course, if none of this really happened, then he should keep his mouth shut...

Originally Posted by SandraC

No kidding. The comparison is that the media has gone after Tiger with the same vigor that they went after Clemens and A-Rod regarding steroids. Equal opportunity badgering.

And they do it because it's news, not because Tiger is brown-skinned. You can mention race all you want, I don't buy it and I don't think many others do either.


Sandra

That's BS and you know it! Let's just compare the A-Rod infidelity and Tiger's news. After the whole Madonna affair broke out....it was heavy for about a week....it might have gone on for 10 days. Was there women parachutting from everywhere with "proof" of emails and text? Did they have EVERY SINGLE tabloid, INCLUDING tabloids from Europe parked on their property? Yesterday, while flipping channels around, Entertainment Tonight dedicated an ENTIRE SHOW on the lastest news to the scandal...an entire show?!! And the most ironic thing is A-Rod LIVES IN NYC, the tabloid and media frenzy capitol OF THE FREE world...and they STILL didn't cover it as wild as they have with Tiger. Can you imagine if Tiger lived in NYC??

Another example....when Kobe was accused of raping this young woman in Colorado. It was heavy news ONLY because she accused him of rape. But the frenzy was no where near as bad as this. They made VERY LITTLE about him cheating on his wife....but alot about the alleged rape. The ONLY big deal about the cheating he did, he bought her a $5 million dollar ring.

So the media coverage being equally.....yeah....right, you keep believing that.

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

That's BS and you know it! Let's just compare the A-Rod infidelity and Tiger's news. After the whole Madonna affair broke out....it was heavy for about a week....it might have gone on for 10 days. Was there women parachutting from everywhere with "proof" of emails and text? Did they have EVERY SINGLE tabloid, INCLUDING tabloids from Europe parked on their property? Yesterday, while flipping channels around, Entertainment Tonight dedicated an ENTIRE SHOW on the lastest news to the scandal...an entire show?!! And the most ironic thing is A-Rod LIVES IN NYC, the tabloid and media frenzy capitol OF THE FREE world...and they STILL didn't cover it as wild as they have with Tiger. Can you imagine if Tiger lived in NYC??

Another example....when Kobe was accused of raping this young woman in Colorado. It was heavy news ONLY because she accused him of rape. But the frenzy was no where near as bad as this. They made VERY LITTLE about him cheating on his wife....but alot about the alleged rape. The ONLY big deal about the cheating he did, he bought her a $5 million dollar ring.

So the media coverage being equally.....yeah....right, you keep believing that.

You did not address my point, you made up your own points, which is a different discussion.


Sandra

Originally Posted by cosmo_kramer

For this to go away, or at least get off the front page, Tiger will have to do a real public mea culpa, not like the scripted one written by his PR staff where he tried to portray himself as the victim. Hey, how about an Oprah interview!! It's worked for countless other famous people in the same situation. As a people, we may not forgive but we will eventually forget.

Throwing money at people to keep quiet and putting up legal obstacles only makes the situation worse.

Until then, the tote board count of women linked to him will continue to grow as well as all of the other soap opera stuff swirling around.

Of course, if none of this really happened, then he should keep his mouth shut...

Good idea.

As big of a sport's star that Tiger is, he's still a very unknown personality. He rarely does interviews and up until this incident, he has kept his personal life under wraps. If the nation can get to know the real Tiger and see that he's just a vulnerable human being like the rest of us, it's possible it will speed up the forgiving process so we can all move on.

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

That's BS and you know it! Let's just compare the A-Rod infidelity and Tiger's news. After the whole Madonna affair broke out....it was heavy for about a week....it might have gone on for 10 days. Was there women parachutting from everywhere with "proof" of emails and text? Did they have EVERY SINGLE tabloid, INCLUDING tabloids from Europe parked on their property? Yesterday, while flipping channels around, Entertainment Tonight dedicated an ENTIRE SHOW on the lastest news to the scandal...an entire show?!! And the most ironic thing is A-Rod LIVES IN NYC, the tabloid and media frenzy capitol OF THE FREE world...and they STILL didn't cover it as wild as they have with Tiger. Can you imagine if Tiger lived in NYC??

I don't think you can equate Tiger's situation with any of the others you mentioned. Are any of the others a billion dollar human corporation that was built on a squeaky-clean family image?? Other than maybe OJ, I can't think of anyone else who has fallen so far, so fast....