Thread: 2012 NFL Draft

For those of us who follow teams who won't be moving onto the postseason, our next season starts after Week 17. And our attention will now be focused on building through the draft. The final selection spots won't be finalized until the end of the playoffs, but we'll have a good idea who will be picking in the top of the first round after this week. Stay tuned folks.......

Oh, and PS. My Browns have TWO #1's this year. A possible gift package for Andrew Luck? Hmmmmm.....

It's a little early to think about the draft when the college players haven't even stated for sure whether they are leaving school.

Originally Posted by HD MM

For those of us who follow teams who won't be moving onto the postseason, our next season starts after Week 17. And our attention will now be focused on building through the draft. The final selection spots won't be finalized until the end of the playoffs, but we'll have a good idea who will be picking in the top of the first round after this week. Stay tuned folks.......

Oh, and PS. My Browns have TWO #1's this year. A possible gift package for Andrew Luck? Hmmmmm.....

What happened to all this man love for Colt McCoy and how good he could be if he is the surround with talent? How the mighty have fallen...

Why not use those 2 #1s TO surround him with talent?

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

What happened to all this man love for Colt McCoy and how good he could be if he is the surround with talent? How the mighty have fallen...

Why not use those 2 #1s TO surround him with talent?

Never had "man love" for Colt. I've learned that in order to win my "love" you have to show me first. Colt is a decent QB. He'll be a good average QB somewhere someday. But he'll never be great. In the AFC North, we need a great QB, not an average one. If a "great" QB is available in the draft, I'd draft him. If not, stick with Colt until one comes around and surround him with weapons like you say.

Originally Posted by HD MM

Never had "man love" for Colt. I've learned that in order to win my "love" you have to show me first. Colt is a decent QB. He'll be a good average QB somewhere someday. But he'll never be great. In the AFC North, we need a great QB, not an average one. If a "great" QB is available in the draft, I'd draft him. If not, stick with Colt until one comes around and surround him with weapons like you say.

Colt at this moment, is a better NFL QB than any in the draft. With Colt, you have something REAL that has shown he can play in the NFL. Everyone...and I do mean everyone, has yet to play a single down in the NFL. There have been MANY amazing QBs in college.

How much better would Colt have with a few more weapons and a better offensive line(if that is what is missing)?

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

Colt at this moment, is a better NFL QB than any in the draft. With Colt, you have something REAL that has shown he can play in the NFL. Everyone...and I do mean everyone, has yet to play a single down in the NFL. There have been MANY amazing QBs in college.

How much better would Colt have with a few more weapons and a better offensive line(if that is what is missing)?

Thier O line is pretty good.
I thought they got a WR in last years draft, didn't they ?
Maybe they could have taken one and passed ?


I think at least 1 of these guys were available ... A.J. Green or Julio Jones


Cleveland chose 6th last year, were these guys off the table already, I know Green went to Cincy, where did Jones go to ?

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

Colt at this moment, is a better NFL QB than any in the draft. With Colt, you have something REAL that has shown he can play in the NFL. Everyone...and I do mean everyone, has yet to play a single down in the NFL. There have been MANY amazing QBs in college.

How much better would Colt have with a few more weapons and a better offensive line(if that is what is missing)?

I understand that any single player can flop at the next level, but if you have the ability to draft a premiere QB, the MOST important position on a team, you do everything in your power to get him. Great player elevate everyone around them. Mediocre players need great players around them to succeed. And even then, they'll never be elite. If this were the AFC West or the NFC West, Colt might be an adequate QB. But the Browns down't play in those fluff conferences.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Thier O line is pretty good.
I thought they got a WR in last years draft, didn't they ?
Maybe they could have taken one and passed ?


I think at least 1 of these guys were available ... A.J. Green or Julio Jones


Cleveland chose 6th last year, were these guys off the table already, I know Green went to Cincy, where did Jones go to ?

The right side of our offensive line could use some work. The injury to Steinbach didn't help either.

We drafted Greg Little out of UNC last year. He's turned out to be pretty decent, but besides him, we don't really have any other options. Robiskie was such a bust, we cut him. Massaquoi has also been a disappointment.

And yes, we traded with Atlanta last year. In swapping picks for them to move up to get Julio Jones, we also got their #1 pick this year.

Originally Posted by HD MM

I understand that any single player can flop at the next level, but if you have the ability to draft a premiere QB, the MOST important position on a team, you do everything in your power to get him. Great player elevate everyone around them. Mediocre players need great players around them to succeed. And even then, they'll never be elite. If this were the AFC West or the NFC West, Colt might be an adequate QB. But the Browns down't play in those fluff conferences.

LMAO! Right now, your team does not even have a record to compete in the AFC West.

I mean really, this is what is gonna come down to..."my dad's conference can beat up your dad's conference"? Geez, LOL, please come back to me when you have a different argument other than that old beaten horse...

How come NO ONE is talking about the NFC East...? The winner of THAT conference win ONLY win 8 games... LOL!