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    Quote Originally Posted by TNGTony
    I was wondering why I hadn't seen any Charlie Chat updates in the last couple of years.



    BTW to go HD is SUPER expensive. Everything from the lens to the transmitter has to be upgraded and NOTHING is cheap. This is why there are so many channels that still haven't made the switch.
    dish also nolonger does tech talk as well. now you have dish studio and what's on dish. check ch101 for showtimes

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    its changing to a dance show called jukin with joe.
    I think you meant Hoppin with Joey.


    TNGTony- If Dish wanted to do the show as a prerecorded show only, not live. The cost would be minimal. It the live part is what makes it super expensive in HD. I've done both as a full production company so I know the difference. I've had two experiences with live. Both were done with rented facilities. The lowest cost procedure would be the way my company did it and that only requires 4 HD camcorders with iso taping and then the program is assembled in post with HD NLE. Dish already has the HD uplink capability so once the HD program is made and on their server, it can be uplinked with their HD equipment for those transponders allocated for HD. But, it would require more bandwidth TP space. Producing the show as an offline doesn't have to be super expensive.

    As for the viewer participation, they could do it with making requests on channel 101 to send in your questions and suggestions to: give a phone number and e-mail and skype line. Other shows are doing this already. These are answered in the program as inserts assembled in post. Now, when the prerecorded show airs, put up a disclaimer that the callers were prerecorded to avoid new callers from disappointment not getting through live. On some of my shows we did this as a call back system and had to make a number of calls until we reached one that was able to speak during the show recording. All this is the magic of editing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Landis View Post
    I think you meant Hoppin with Joey.


    TNGTony- If Dish wanted to do the show as a prerecorded show only, not live. The cost would be minimal. It the live part is what makes it super expensive in HD. I've done both as a full production company so I know the difference. I've had two experiences with live. Both were done with rented facilities. The lowest cost procedure would be the way my company did it and that only requires 4 HD camcorders with iso taping and then the program is assembled in post with HD NLE. Dish already has the HD uplink capability so once the HD program is made and on their server, it can be uplinked with their HD equipment for those transponders allocated for HD. But, it would require more bandwidth TP space. Producing the show as an offline doesn't have to be super expensive.

    As for the viewer participation, they could do it with making requests on channel 101 to send in your questions and suggestions to: give a phone number and e-mail and skype line. Other shows are doing this already. These are answered in the program as inserts assembled in post. Now, when the prerecorded show airs, put up a disclaimer that the callers were prerecorded to avoid new callers from disappointment not getting through live. On some of my shows we did this as a call back system and had to make a number of calls until we reached one that was able to speak during the show recording. All this is the magic of editing.
    Just reading your explanation is more work than the more recent Charlie Chats are worth.......

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    Don, I was thinking about replacing the equipment they already have, and taking into mind editing time which is expensive. HD camcorders look good, but nowhere near as good as $15,000 lens/camera/triax adapter sets. I know you can do an HD tricaster with camcorders but you can see the difference and it looks cheesy... and you are still talking 10,000 to own. You can just rent a studio for a day, but Dish has their own SD studio. I was talking about the price to upgrade it, that would be the uber expensive part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNGTony View Post
    Don, I was thinking about replacing the equipment they already have, and taking into mind editing time which is expensive. HD camcorders look good, but nowhere near as good as $15,000 lens/camera/triax adapter sets. I know you can do an HD tricaster with camcorders but you can see the difference and it looks cheesy... and you are still talking 10,000 to own. You can just rent a studio for a day, but Dish has their own SD studio. I was talking about the price to upgrade it, that would be the uber expensive part.
    sounds like a dish commercial to me........

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