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    Changing from the VIP722K to the Hopper, I had just a few recordings to transfer. I had a 80GB 2.25" drive is a case. I used a powered USB Hub to power the drive and both the &22K and the Hopper had no problem writing and reading the drive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sparc View Post
    yes, but i doubt they made that rule with USB powered hubs in mind. They'll probably always assume you are direct connecting to be on the safe side.
    What's supported and what actually works is often different. Dish's published requirements are definitely on the conservative side - and I can't blame them for it. Non-powered hubs almost always seem to work. Non-powered drives not as much.

    There has been a lot of discussion on externally powered vs usb powered drive and the only real answer is it depends. With a powered hub, it seems to usually work, but I think some of the notebook type drives seem to power down too deeply and don't want to wake up.

    USB powered drives connected directly to the receiver have been a lot more hit or miss. Seems to depend a lot on the drive's power requirements and even which revision of the receiver it's connected to. Some drives are recognized, but don't seem to get enough power to actually spin up and do anything.

    Personally I would prefer putting the load on the hub's power supply than the receiver's.

    Of course all this experience in the forums has been for 622/722/722k. Hopper may have better (or worse) results in general.

    Bottom line, if you're purchasing a drive and can't return it, get a powered one to be safe. If you have a drive to experiment with, then try it out, but remember you won't get much help if it doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM42 View Post
    Bottom line, if you're purchasing a drive and can't return it, get a powered one to be safe. If you have a drive to experiment with, then try it out, but remember you won't get much help if it doesn't work.
    Which was exactly my situation. I had a spare EHD that didn't require external power sitting around and i thought it would be worth trying. It works (for now). Are you guys suggesting that it might crap out or kill my hopper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miracleman View Post
    Which was exactly my situation. I had a spare EHD that didn't require external power sitting around and i thought it would be worth trying. It works (for now). Are you guys suggesting that it might crap out or kill my hopper?
    They are saying take the load off the receiver's power by using a powered hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miracleman View Post
    Which was exactly my situation. I had a spare EHD that didn't require external power sitting around and i thought it would be worth trying. It works (for now). Are you guys suggesting that it might crap out or kill my hopper?
    I doubt it, but I'm sort of a belt and suspenders type of guy. A little less load on the Hopper power supply means a little less heat, probably the receivers worse enemy, but the draw while idle is minimal. $12 for a powered hub and you don't have to worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miracleman View Post
    Neither my USB hub nor my EHD have their own power supply, and both work perfectly....
    But for how long?


    Quote Originally Posted by miracleman View Post
    Which was exactly my situation. I had a spare EHD that didn't require external power sitting around and i thought it would be worth trying. It works (for now). Are you guys suggesting that it might crap out or kill my hopper?
    Yes. A larger load than planned on will strain a power supply and one day it might just push up daisies.
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