What will really happen Feb 1st ?

[DWS44]

Not upset? I could chew thru nails when I think about the whole mess.

To think they will make new channels available on 2/1, but I have to wait for April for the breadcrumb they threw at 942 owners...and if I even think about upgrading my 811 on 2/1 to a 211, then I even screw that possibility, and would have to shell out full price to get a 622. IMO the whole thing reeks for current HD subs.

I love the chance to HAVE new HD channels, but since they clearly have the capacity in the short term (since the channels will continue in MPEG2 for an as yet undetermined amount of time), and since they are creating an artificial demand for product they clearly dont have enough of, they should make the channels available in "preview" to the existing equipment, AT LEAST until supply of new receivers is substantial enough to meet demand, AND they are prepared to make the offcers to existing subs (not 2 months after launch)

[vinnyv07]

What's to be upset over?? We are just a few weeks from what we want- more HD.
We have an idea of what will happen by reading this forum. New receivers will be required and most do not seem upset over the rumored upgrade paths.
After all you don't see Sony upgrading your TV when a new model comes out. Nor did they upgrade it for you when HD became available.
I sympathize with those that spent good money on the 942. I just dropped D* inspite of having purchased their HD DVR due to lack of HD. I feel I am way ahead right now and will not groan over the wasted money on the DVR--my mistake after all

I agree with your post except for the SONY tv reference. Dish and sony are 2 totally different companies. Sony doesn't provide a service that you have to pay for monthly. Dish is about to cut their own profits by starting new HD ch's that not many paying customers will have a chance to watch day 1. Sony sells products for profit....Dish depends on paying subscribers for profit.

[waltinvt]

Not upset? I could chew thru nails when I think about the whole mess.

To think they will make new channels available on 2/1, but I have to wait for April for the breadcrumb they threw at 942 owners...and if I even think about upgrading my 811 on 2/1 to a 211, then I even screw that possibility, and would have to shell out full price to get a 622. IMO the whole thing reeks for current HD subs.

I love the chance to HAVE new HD channels, but since they clearly have the capacity in the short term (since the channels will continue in MPEG2 for an as yet undetermined amount of time), and since they are creating an artificial demand for product they clearly dont have enough of, they should make the channels available in "preview" to the existing equipment, AT LEAST until supply of new receivers is substantial enough to meet demand, AND they are prepared to make the offcers to existing subs (not 2 months after launch)

My sentiments exactly and to make it even worse, it's such a transparent scheme to exploit those of us that have done the most to support the move to HD.

But what bothers (and surprises) me the most is the apparent level of complacency of many here. For us to be put on the back burner for even a few weeks is an outrage and I'm willing to bet it's going to be a lot longer than that but there's such an "oh well, Dish did it again" attitude around here I could scream.

[stone phillips420]

I feel very strongly that the department heads at dish are severely mentality challenged.
I mean come on surrender owned equipment for new mpeg4 leased equipment and pay a nominal upgrade fee
But apparently they might have followers dtv as well
seems to me their shooting themselves in the foot
id be happy to surrender my owned 942 for a owned 622, id even pay the bs nominal upgrade fee
i just don't think the above will happen

[waltinvt]

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I feel very strongly that the department heads at dish are severely mentality challenged.

No, they're just very greedy bean counters with limited long term vision.

id be happy to surrender my owned 942 for a owned 622, id even pay the bs nominal upgrade fee
i just don't think the above will happen

Dish isn't really interrested in what makes you happy - only how much they can squeeze out of you without making you jump ship.

[jerryez]

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I just ordered a Vip 211 from a very nice CSR. She is shipping it directly to me to install for the $50 lease fee. She said I could send in my 311 for a $25 refund or keep it since I owned it. Return of owned receivers was not required. Since, I do not need any dish work (i have a dish 500 and 61.5 dish) I can install the receiver myself. Installation is not required.

Looks to me like Dish has worked out the details on the Vip211.