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    I have a 10" in wall sub mounted about 1' above the floor. I am having a problem with it shaking the whole wall and giving a distorted sound, kind of like when people have the oversized speakers in a 70 model junker and everything is rattling around. I can lean against the wall to brace it and the distortion goes away. If I vent the wall somehow will this help or make things worse and if this is not the answer what is going to be the best way to go about fixing the issue?

    One more thing I did insulate around the speaker when I installed it.
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    You like need to get INTO the wall space and build a sturdy 2x4 frame box for the sub to rest inside of (not attached to any current wall framing or sheetrock) that is also well dampened (sp?) or insulated all around except for the open firing front. This theory may change by knowing what type of sub is in use; maybe changing sub types is an option?. Or simply determining what is rattling and "tightening" things up; glass, wall hangings, etc?.
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    I don't know what model sub you are working with, but many of them rely on using the wall to increase low frequency response. You don't want to eliminate that as you will kill the low frequencies.

    I would look at several things. It looks like you may be hitting a resonant frequency. This can be solved by adding one or more cross braces to raise the resonant frequency. You could also add a second layer of sheetrock, or change the existing sheetrock for sound board. You might be able to get away with adding a thick padded wall covering. In general though, I think you will need to go into the wall and make structural changes. It might be cheaper to abandon the existing in wall unit and replace it with a conventional sub.

    I definitely agree with charper about taking EVERYTHING off the wall and seeing if it goes away. It any be the stuff you hung up there and that can be fixed by mounting it more securely. I had a problem with some movie posters once, that I solved by tightening the mounting wire, getting the mounting hangers into studs and adding some foam tape to the bottom corners.

    If all else fails, try isolating the sub from the wall. Does this sub have a rear enclosure, or is it open? If open, try sealing it off and add insulation inside. In any case, mount the sub to the frame with foam isolation. It will kill your bass, but greatly lower the coupling to the wall. One more thing. Is the sub mounted to a wood frame, or just attached to the plasterboard? If the later, you really should build a frame for the enclosure and attach this to the adjoining studs. This will help A LOT and may be all you need to do.

    I'm sorry that in my opinion, any solution is probably going to require that you tear apart the wall to some degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charper1 View Post
    You like need to get INTO the wall space and build a sturdy 2x4 frame box for the sub to rest inside of (not attached to any current wall framing or sheetrock) that is also well dampened (sp?) or insulated all around except for the open firing front. This theory may change by knowing what type of sub is in use; maybe changing sub types is an option?. Or simply determining what is rattling and "tightening" things up; glass, wall hangings, etc?.
    Do stay away from securing the drive unit directly to sheet rock, I guarantee it will loosen quickly at the screws. From what the original poster says, I would suggest a second layer of sheetrock applied over the old. Glue it and screw it. It sounds like the original sheetrock is resonating with the subwoofer. You might want to look into Sunfire's new subwoofer. Carver has some new ideas about about solving your problem.

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    I am planning on taking the sub out tonight and i will post some pics. I did brace were the wings on the screws tighten. There is no additional bracing in the wall around the sub except for the studs on both sides which should be seen in the photos. there is nothing on that wall except a painting that has no plastic or glass. Just a wooden frame with the canvas wrapped around which is not causing the problem "I have taken it off and same results". I do think it is the sheet rock itself that is causing the problem.
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    Hopefully this fixed the issue. I will let you know in a couple of days as I get time to test the system. I also added a layer of insulation around the edge of the sub between the wall.
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    Let us know how things worked out.

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    Well I am going to say that fixed the problem. It has alot more bass now also, probably because its more stable. Today is the first day I have really got to test it and it blew the grill off the front.
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