Thread: Pioneer vs Yamaha Questions/Models

Here are the ones Im looking at, upgrading from a Denon 1911, so they are all upgrades. Im not sur eif the Elite models are a worthy price to pay, vs the 1121, and not sure if the 1010 adds much except the amp. My only complaint in my current system is the 1911, and it's not bad at all, but I'd like to try another brand as well as more power. Would also like to try anotehr speaker setup routine (YPAO/MCACC)

Pioneer

1121K
$600
7.1 110wx7
THX Certified
MCACC Advanced
30.21lbs

VSX-53 Elite
$770
7.1 110x7
THX Select 2 Plus
MCACC Advanced
30.65 lbs

SC-55
$1300
Class D3 Amp
140x9
THX Select 2 Plus
MCACC Advanced
38.36 pounds



Yamaha

1010
$1000
120x7
YPAO Multipoint
Burr Brown DACS
33.3

810
$800
110x7
YPAO Multipoint
Burr Browns
24.5lbs




To me, the VSX-53 has my eye, and it appears it's just the Elite version of the 1121, with a little more weight and THX Select 2 Plus, along with a better warranty I assume. Im not sure whether the SC55 is worth almost twice as much, someone would need to fill me in.

On the Yamahas, I'd guess the 1010 for the power, it's got a lot more weight to it.


Im tempted to just say frack it and buy the SC55 (would be a long term purchase), but... And, the more I think about it, that SC55 looks interesting. From reading on the AMP, the ability to be used as a preamp later, and the Marvell QDEO which I could use on my Dish network feed/TiVo feed to send 1080p/60 to my display, up from 720p and 1080i, its well built. The SC's have gotten glowing reviews for sound in both Sound and Vision and HTM.


Thanks for any help.

Just left and sold my Pioneer 20 series. I really didn't care for it. The Denon and Marantz have a much cleaner sound to me. Been really pleased with my 2112. Been a while since I've had a Yamaha.

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Yeah, Im getting that. My other option was subwoofer, even though I like my Sub-12, it's a budget based boomer and it could stand an upgrade. The money may be better spent there, and Im looking at the Supercube I and a Velodyne DEQ12R or 15R.

15 may be too much though, if thats possible?

I have an older Velodyne SPL-1200 and it is more than sufficient for my room. I expect the cleaner bass from a DEQ12R would blow you away.
Trying to stay quiet on the amps, but I pretty much agree with teachsac

Dude, didn't you just get the Denon 1911?

Originally Posted by jayn_j

I have an older Velodyne SPL-1200 and it is more than sufficient for my room. I expect the cleaner bass from a DEQ12R would blow you away.
Trying to stay quiet on the amps, but I pretty much agree with teachsac

Thanks for the input, and I'm reading good comments on velodyne. I was kinda thinking the 15" was too much in my 11x20 room and that the 12 may be better.

Originally Posted by RandallA

Dude, didn't you just get the Denon 1911?

Yeah, I have a problem



I get a hair and start looking at other models, then just end up back with denon. I don't think the cost adds much benefit, at least not as adding a better sub.

Originally Posted by teachsac

Just left and sold my Pioneer 20 series. I really didn't care for it. The Denon and Marantz have a much cleaner sound to me. Been really pleased with my 2112. Been a while since I've had a Yamaha.

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The 6005 Marantz which is selling for under $600, I guess because the 6006 is out at $1100, looks intersting. I completely forgot about them and it was already a brand I wanted to try.

Aight. Did some more sub looking. The HSU VTF-2 MK4 and Outlaw LSM-1 Plus really have my eye.