Thread: Pioneer steps up with 1.3a compatiblity!

Those interested in a new 1.3 HDMI recievers might just want to read this:


http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...424387,00.html

THX and Farouda processing!! If these new avrs also support PCM over the HDMI then I think I have found my new AVR replacement!

Maybe these possible units as well; will they have 1.3?

Yamaha RX-V861
Onkyo TX-SR505
Onkyo TX-SR575
Onkyo TX-SR605
Onkyo TX-SR705
Onkyo TX-SR805
Onkyo TX-SR875
Onkyo TX-NR905
Sherwood Newcastle R-972


http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9711535-1.html

...and I am still not sold on any HDMI over what I have now.

Originally Posted by JoeSp

Those interested in a new 1.3 HDMI recievers might just want to read this:


http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...424387,00.html

THX and Farouda processing!! If these new avrs also support PCM over the HDMI then I think I have found my new AVR replacement!

I don't know why they wouldn't support PCM. It is an ancient technology. Pretty standard these days.

The Yamaha doesn't sport HDMI 1.3 or advanced audio codecs. Haven't heard a peep from them. The new onkyos do and have a built in repeater for longer runs. There is always the Denons also.

The lower priced Denon's do not do video processing -- just pass thru and they do not decode TDHD or DTS-HD MA. They will play what is decoded by the player. If the Pioneer which is THX-2 certified does do PCM then I will be getting one of the higher models.

The VSX-92THX has the Farouda processing, decodes both TrueDolbyHD and DTS-HD MA along with THX-2 certification and at $1300 is well within my wheelhouse. I just have to wait till August. I like Pioneer Elite equipment and this particular product is just what I am looking for.

It has not been said by Denon if the mid-range products will do video processing but they should be doing HD audio decoding in the box. This Summer is going to be very exciting for those of us who are looking to upgrade our current avrs!!

I do not know much about Onkyo and maybe someone can chime in here with specs on their new receivers.

Originally Posted by JoeSp

The lower priced Denon's do not do video processing -- just pass thru and they do not decode TDHD or DTS-HD MA. They will play what is decoded by the player. If the Pioneer which is THX-2 certified does do PCM then I will be getting one of the higher models.

It has not been said by Denon if the mid-range products will do video processing but they should be doing HD audio decoding in the box. This Summer is going to be very exciting for those of us who are looking to upgrade our current avrs!!

I do not know much about Onkyo and maybe someone can chime in here with specs on their new receivers.

The 3808 should do DOlbyTrueHD and DTSMaster. The 1508 and 1708 will not though. Noone really knows what it will do. Denon is always absolutely mum until they post the specs on their website. I would actually prefer the receiver not to do video processing. Faroudja is good but not great. Onkyo is Ok. For an integrated receiver I'd rather have Denon or Yamaha.

S~

If not Faroudja then who for your video processing? Whether in the player or the reciever what differance does that make? If it can do bit-for-bit passage of 1080p 24 hz video how can that be a bad thing? While I currently have a Denon and like it I really would like a nice HDMI receiver and being THX certified cannot be a bad thing. With Denon you only get THX certification on their top model.

On another note, Denon has not reported that their mid-range receivers will decode DTHD or DTS-HD MA. Only that they will be able to play back the decoded signal from the hd player. It will be interesting to see what those receivers will do as they are due in July.

I didn't say it was bad. It is one of the most commonly used processors in AV equipment, especially integrated receivers. There just hasn't been a lot added in the past 4 years. SOmeone is switching to the HQV processors, can't remeber who right off hand. FOund it. Onkyo is it. You don't want your receiver doing all of the work. It needs to be focused on where it matters, audio. Most of the good receivers will pass 1080p 24hz from the source provided you have a monitor that accepts it. The Denon 2807/3806/4806 pass it just fine. If you really want video upconverting, get a video processor. They will do a whole lot more than the receiver will ever be able to do. Otherwise let the player or TV do it.

Like I said. Denon doesn't report anything. They did report at CES that their midline and upperend models would decode HD Audio. The thing with THX certification is it costs a lot of money to certify a product line. Yamaha at one time didn't even bother to have their recievers certified. Just add $$$$ to the price tag. You can get a really nice receiver for what you want with just as good of quality without the THX stamp. Calibrate it correctly and you won't notice the difference.

S~

Agreed, THX tag for most home users is nothing more than a licensing money grab.

Originally Posted by JoeSp

If not Faroudja then who for your video processing?

Faroudja was synonymous with high-end 3 years ago.
Reon-VX and Gennum VXP are today's high end. Faroudja in a $1500 AVR is not something to get excited about.

Originally Posted by JoeSp

Denon has not reported that their mid-range receivers will decode DTHD or DTS-HD MA.

There is a good chance that undecoded lossless audio won't be allowed to be passed for decoding outside the player (or so I read somewhere).

It's probably time to get used to the idea that the player should do the decoding and invest in good power amps instead.

Diogen.