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    That is exactly right!! The XBOX360 works as well as it does because it is using a known chipset combo that works. This did not prevent overheating with the first ones out of the barn but I hope MS has that problem fixed.

    The PS3 is in the Twilight Zone because both chips are unknown and unproven. If Sony did not get the numbers right on the CELL proccessor then there is no way the RSX gpu can do the job that was expected. And there might not be a way to fix it!


    The PS3 could end up being a less expensive Blu-Ray drive but they still have not said whether you will be able to get HD-Audio out of the unit. If they are indeed going to put HDMI 1.3 on the more expensive model then they should at least support all HD-Dolbly Digital sound codecs!

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    Joe,

    First, I am a very technical person
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    and the bottom line is no ATI card designed for the same level of graphics has ever run cooler than an NVidea card.
    What kind of technical person you are?
    You sound like a low-level PC technician - they usually think since they can put together a machine, they do understand everything...
    I remember I felt similarly when my first code ran on Sinclair Spectrum in '85... :P
    If you want avoid public 'show', stop spreading this misinformed stuff, pls - I really don't want to go over every single funny and false satetement you just wrote and correct them...

    HINT: it was already a generally accepted fact in graphics world that Xenos is one generation ahead of RSX, even before it was confirmed that RSX is nothing but a souped up NV7800 - which was, BTW, generally expected given the short design period Sony gave NV -, released last year in PC world... have you ever heard of 'unified architecture'?

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    If a product is deemed technically supperior but does not perform that way it is still by design more supperior but not in the real world numbers. ATI cards run hot, they use alot of power and that has been a problem for them in the last four years. You will see alot more overclocked NVidea based cards from third party manufacturers than ATI based cards.

    These are not BS statements. Go out in the real world an look for the products.

    Intel processors are technically supperior to AMD processors but they are constantly outperformed in the gaming world by AMD based computers. I am a gamer I am not interested in crunching spreadsheets!

    Being technocally supperior does not make your product work better in real world solutions.

    Since you love ATI then buy them. I used to use ATI until NVidea passed their performance with a cooler running and faster moving graphics card. I am interested in gaming and I like what NVidea has been doing. If ATI gets off their buts and brings out a card that I don't have to buy a 600 watt power box for and a water cooling system to keep it from frying my other chips when I what to run say Cysis at 1920 x 1600 then I will buy it.

    Until then I am a NVidea fan thru and thru at least until someone brings out a card that does significanlty more than the one I currently am using - a BFG6800gt overclocked baby that runs 1600x1200 with eveything tuned on in FarCry with no slowdown. Maybe this fall
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    Joe: pssst, don't tell anyone but a 6800GT - even OCed - is a far cry from my X1900, believe me...

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    Let's all buy gameboys and forget all this high tech nonsense...

    Who's with me!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purogamer
    Let's all buy gameboys and forget all this high tech nonsense...

    Who's with me!?!?
    Hey, I have a spare Intellivision 2 system lying around here somewhere.

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    I have an Super Nintendo game system for sale

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    HEY, I remember when the Intellivision came out and people were complaining about it being too expensive!!!!

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    They say that about every damn console...

    I made a point months ago that when I was a kid, paying like $299 for an atari was a lot of money, and if you adjust for inflation is probably close to paying 599 for a ps3 today...

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