How Dish's 1080p is going to work...

[ka1z0ku]

My 722 got the Turbo-charge yesterday in the a.m. (or early p.m., got home late from work) and I Am Legend 1080p showed up in the guide on 501, however when I tried to order it, it did the screen test and failed me... What gives? My tv is 720p native, however it accepts the 1080p signal from my Xbox 360 Elite no problem, even when I press the info button on my remote it says "HDMI 2, 1080p".

Is Dish using some obscure variant of 1080p or what?

On a side note, the maximum resolution on the 722's HD setup screen is still 1080i. Is there supposed to be a 1080p option there after the Turbo update, or could this be the source of the problem? If not, then will a 1080p movie truly play in 1080p, or will it display in the default resolution of the reciever (1080i, 720p, etc...)?

 

[primetimeguy]

My 722 got the Turbo-charge yesterday in the a.m. (or early p.m., got home late from work) and I Am Legend 1080p showed up in the guide on 501, however when I tried to order it, it did the screen test and failed me... What gives? My tv is 720p native, however it accepts the 1080p signal from my Xbox 360 Elite no problem, even when I press the info button on my remote it says "HDMI 2, 1080p".

Is Dish using some obscure variant of 1080p or what?

On a side note, the maximum resolution on the 722's HD setup screen is still 1080i. Is there supposed to be a 1080p option there after the Turbo update, or could this be the source of the problem? If not, then will a 1080p movie truly play in 1080p, or will it display in the default resolution of the reciever (1080i, 720p, etc...)?

But does your TV accpet 1080 and 24p? That may be the issue.

From what I have read from Scot's post, there will not be a setting for 1080p. It will just switch to 1080p for this VOD event assuming it verifies it with your TV and then it will switch back when you are done watching it. If it cannot detect a 1080p24 compatible TV it will send as your default resolution so you can still view it.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

What he said.

 

[Smith P.]

Did you run HDMI test from 722's Diag menu ?

 

[ka1z0ku]

Did you run HDMI test from 722's Diag menu ?

No I haven't, I will have to do later this evening and post the results tomorrow. Ah, the wonders of not having home internet access, haha. Out of curiosity however, what kind of result should I be looking for from the aforementioned test?

 

[Hfivo]

My Program Guide shows I have been Turbo Charged, but no channel 501 shows up on the guide.... some improper setting?

Thanks for the assistance.

 

[Hfivo]

I just saw the posting with the schedule for updating... my 622 probably won't get the info till after 8/11, hence no channel 501.
Sorry for the previous post.

 

[David_Levin]

But does your TV accpet 1080 and 24p? That may be the issue.

I was wondering about that.
There's going to be a lot of pissed off and confused 1080p owners out there.

 

[Hall]

My Program Guide shows I have been Turbo Charged, but no channel 501 shows up on the guide.... some improper setting?

Channel 75, saying you've been turbo-charged, is a "gimmick". It means nothing when it comes down to it. You need the s/w update to be truly turbo-charged.

As I recall, 100,000 622 units will get the update soon and then the week of the 11th, as you say, the rest will get it. If your receiver's "number" isn't in the list of the 100k, there's NOTHING anyone can do to force the update or trick it into updating your machine. Also, tech support can "push" the update to your unique machine either, though they've told customers in the past that they would do this.

 

[ka1z0ku]

It was probably just coincidence, but when I called to complain about my local chans not being in HD just a couple days ago, I also mentioned "Hey, I get this turbo-charged message but my software hasn't been updated, what gives"? The response that I got was that all new Dish customers were getting boxes that were already turbo-charged, everyone else would have to wait for the software to download, even those of us with 722s, and that some people would have to wait until February for the update. I'm not kidding, she said February.

However, within 24 hours my software was updated. Needless to say, I was confused but happy.

 

[JimP]

Scott,

I think one question that needs answering is does the channel 501 only loads a 1080p24 program if the display shows that it'll accept it, or does it go ahead and load it and then runs the compatibility test?

 

[8bitbytes]

Scott,

I think one question that needs answering is does the channel 501 only loads a 1080p24 program if the display shows that it'll accept it, or does it go ahead and load it and then runs the compatibility test?

The program supposedly won't show on the epg until it has downloaded onto the dvr.

 

[JimP]

It was probably just coincidence, but when I called to complain about my local chans not being in HD just a couple days ago, I also mentioned "Hey, I get this turbo-charged message but my software hasn't been updated, what gives"? The response that I got was that all new Dish customers were getting boxes that were already turbo-charged, everyone else would have to wait for the software to download, even those of us with 722s, and that some people would have to wait until February for the update. I'm not kidding, she said February.

However, within 24 hours my software was updated. Needless to say, I was confused but happy.

I got my VIP 722 last Friday (new customer status) and it wasn't turbocharged till some time this week.

I honestly think that things change so fast at Dish that the information given to their CSRs isn't reliable.

 

[JimP]

The program supposedly won't show on the epg until it has downloaded onto the dvr.

You sure about that?

epg does stand for electronic program guide, right? That's the display showing what's playing on each channel.

 

[jacmyoung]

Now if one has a 720p native panel I don't know if the 1080p movie will do any good even if one can pass the test, order it and watch.

 

[8bitbytes]

Now if one has a 720p native panel I don't know if the 1080p movie will do any good even if one can pass the test, order it and watch.

That may be true except:

The bitrate will be much higher than the starved 1080i Dish broadcasts
Your panel won't have to convert 1080i to 1080p and then back down to 720p so you will get better scaling straight from 1080p.

I'm looking forward to giving it a go on my projector.

 

[nolan 1]

My Program Guide shows I have been Turbo Charged, but no channel 501 shows up on the guide.... some improper setting?

Thanks for the assistance.

What should the epg look like, also my software says L520

 

[ka1z0ku]

Now if one has a 720p native panel I don't know if the 1080p movie will do any good even if one can pass the test, order it and watch.

I figure that since E* uses HD Lite to skimp on the current HD content, that even though I cannot fully appreciate 1080p, that at least I would get better PQ out of it than a typical HD offering.

 

[ralfyguy]

Channel 75, saying you've been turbo-charged, is a "gimmick". It means nothing when it comes down to it. You need the s/w update to be truly turbo-charged.

As I recall, 100,000 622 units will get the update soon and then the week of the 11th, as you say, the rest will get it. If your receiver's "number" isn't in the list of the 100k, there's NOTHING anyone can do to force the update or trick it into updating your machine. Also, tech support can "push" the update to your unique machine either, though they've told customers in the past that they would do this.

This whole thing is just a bunch of BULLSH..! I have L610 on my 722 since three days, I have ch75 telling me I am Turbo-charged, but I am NOT, because there is still no ch501 in my EPG, even after severeal switch tests to update it. Whatever this garbage is supposed to do, it doesn't work on MY 722. It simply does NOT show up!

 

[JimP]

They intentionally delay it to people with attitude.