Where is the 2017 4K sports content?

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Sadly they only have 1 channel for this type of situation ....
Then again, it's more than any other provider.

Without a doubt and is one of the remaining reasons why I'm with them. So I still get SOME value out of my TV from time to time when I'm not watching Youtube or Netflix 4K content. 104 has been showing the wrong content in the guide, and in it's place some pretty decent 4K cooking & culture shows.
 
Without a doubt and is one of the remaining reasons why I'm with them. So I still get SOME value out of my TV from time to time when I'm not watching Youtube or Netflix 4K content. 104 has been showing the wrong content in the guide, and in it's place some pretty decent 4K cooking & culture shows.
THe only VALUE you get out of your TV is when 4k is being shown ?
 
Channel 106

The Best 4K Entertainment Experience Available. Get Original shows, hit movies on demand, and the most live sports in 4K – only on DIRECTV. Here’s whats coming up:



Major League Baseball (check local listings for broadcast times)

8/31 – Red Sox @ Yankees, 7pm ET

9/1 – Red Sox @ Yankees, 7pm ET

9/15 – Dodgers @ Nationals, 7pm ET

9/18 – Twins @ Yankees, 7pm ET



College Football

9/2 – Maryland @ Texas, 12 noon ET

9/9 – Minnesota @ Oregon State, 10pm ET

9/16 – Northern Illinois @ Nebraska, 12 noon ET



English Premier League Soccer

8/27 – Liverpool v. Arsenal, 11am ET

9/10 – Swansea city v. Newcastle, 11am ET

9/17 – Manchester United v. Everton, 11am ET

9/24 – Brighton v. Newcastle, 11am ET

9/30 – Chelsea v. Manchester City, 12:30 ET (Channel 105)
 
Sadly they only have 1 channel for this type of situation ....
Then again, it's more than any other provider.
What do you mean only 1 channel? When there has been two live 4K events at the same time they've used channel 105 and 106, they did this only a few weeks ago when that happened.
 
What do you mean only 1 channel? When there has been two live 4K events at the same time they've used channel 105 and 106, they did this only a few weeks ago when that happened.
The Sports games are all on 106 only, from what I've seen.
 
I think the biggest issue with continued expansion is lack of production trucks.

FS1 is using the GTX-18 which I think is limited in availability right now. (and probably super expensive)

Networks seem to want seamless 4k to 1080i/720p scalability in production so there's no separate broadcast set-up needed for 4k. This truck allows you do to full production in 4k, and simply down-res to whatever your standard channel offers.

When you consider ALL the productions done across the country this time of year, it's going to be awhile before there's a lot of 4k around. It seems we have the trend of MORE brodcasts rather than better quality. With the plethora of college football on today, how does a network go about choosing which game to get to 4k and how do they go about doing it? FS1 is taking the simple approach showing their biggest game in 4k each weekend.

Combine the 100 CFB games on, with limited bandwidth, we can only cross our fingers more networks like FS1 are willing to bite the bullet, buy/lease this truck (or similar), and get 4k content out there. Keep in mind last year NBC only showed ND home games, allowing them to set up 4k production once for the whole season. FS1 is touting this around the nation week to week. I don't know of any large sports broadcaster that can reliably stay in place for the full season, and get national eyeballs.


Another factor: Affiliates
It's easy for cable networks like FS1 to offer an 'alternative' station for 4k content because they don't have local affiliates to please/break contracts with/get sued by.

CBS and FOX affiliates make a lot of money with local ad buys including NFL Sundays. CBS & FOX maybe have legal limits in their ability to broadcast these games on a SAT/cable only 4k channels with no local ads. Similar to how I can never watch 4k Red Sox on MLB Network produced broadcasts, because I have to enjoy it on 1080i NESN :(

Now, NBC was obviously able to do this last year, but the Notre Dame contract maybe allows more flexibility than a whole multi-year NFL contract? NBC Notre Dame home games don't have nearly the market push that CBS Patriots game do in these parts.


Looking ahead to Thanksgiving (and K9SAT suggestions earlier in the thread) we have FOX, CBS, NBC broadcasting one game each. NFL Network does NOT have a game that week, so there's no option for an MLB Network style set-up, where NFL Network would technically broadcasts the game in 4k absolving networks from angering affiliates. My guess would be the NBC night game game would be the one to get 4k'd. While they aren't doing 4k Notre Dame games this year the Winter Olympics are right around the corner and you'd think they'd want to talk up that 4k offering as much as possible. Being in South Korea you can be sure these Olympics will be in 4k as much as possible as S. Korea is one of the first nations (the first?) with OTA 4k broadcasts via ATSC 3.0.

So here's my theory: NBC is using the HD only NEP ND1 for their Sunday Night Football broadcasts this year. There are Sunday Night games on each end of Thanksgiving and it wouldn't probably be possible to move the SNF crew to do 3 games in 7 days. So they'll probably need a separate production set-up for Thanksgiving only since Amazon and NFL network are not involved in that game at all. They can lease/rent/borrow/steal a full 4k production truck for the night and debut NFL 4k. :biggrin

CBS isn't absent in the 4k sports world either so maybe they'll surprise us?

FOX... meh... maybe they'll let the FS1 boys take over but... they're totally different groups in the same media company, I wouldn't expect it. (CBS Sports and NBC Sports are both children of their overall parent network, FOX and Fox Sports are more like... cousins :biggrin)

Regardless, let's hope that SOMEBODY gets a 4k game on Thanksgiving and I'll have an even better excuses to not travel to the in-laws. :clapping
 
I think the biggest issue with continued expansion is lack of production trucks.

FS1 is using the GTX-18 which I think is limited in availability right now. (and probably super expensive)

Networks seem to want seamless 4k to 1080i/720p scalability in production so there's no separate broadcast set-up needed for 4k. This truck allows you do to full production in 4k, and simply down-res to whatever your standard channel offers.

When you consider ALL the productions done across the country this time of year, it's going to be awhile before there's a lot of 4k around. It seems we have the trend of MORE brodcasts rather than better quality. With the plethora of college football on today, how does a network go about choosing which game to get to 4k and how do they go about doing it? FS1 is taking the simple approach showing their biggest game in 4k each weekend.

Combine the 100 CFB games on, with limited bandwidth, we can only cross our fingers more networks like FS1 are willing to bite the bullet, buy/lease this truck (or similar), and get 4k content out there. Keep in mind last year NBC only showed ND home games, allowing them to set up 4k production once for the whole season. FS1 is touting this around the nation week to week. I don't know of any large sports broadcaster that can reliably stay in place for the full season, and get national eyeballs.


Another factor: Affiliates
It's easy for cable networks like FS1 to offer an 'alternative' station for 4k content because they don't have local affiliates to please/break contracts with/get sued by.

CBS and FOX affiliates make a lot of money with local ad buys including NFL Sundays. CBS & FOX maybe have legal limits in their ability to broadcast these games on a SAT/cable only 4k channels with no local ads. Similar to how I can never watch 4k Red Sox on MLB Network produced broadcasts, because I have to enjoy it on 1080i NESN :(

Now, NBC was obviously able to do this last year, but the Notre Dame contract maybe allows more flexibility than a whole multi-year NFL contract? NBC Notre Dame home games don't have nearly the market push that CBS Patriots game do in these parts.


Looking ahead to Thanksgiving (and K9SAT suggestions earlier in the thread) we have FOX, CBS, NBC broadcasting one game each. NFL Network does NOT have a game that week, so there's no option for an MLB Network style set-up, where NFL Network would technically broadcasts the game in 4k absolving networks from angering affiliates. My guess would be the NBC night game game would be the one to get 4k'd. While they aren't doing 4k Notre Dame games this year the Winter Olympics are right around the corner and you'd think they'd want to talk up that 4k offering as much as possible. Being in South Korea you can be sure these Olympics will be in 4k as much as possible as S. Korea is one of the first nations (the first?) with OTA 4k broadcasts via ATSC 3.0.

So here's my theory: NBC is using the HD only NEP ND1 for their Sunday Night Football broadcasts this year. There are Sunday Night games on each end of Thanksgiving and it wouldn't probably be possible to move the SNF crew to do 3 games in 7 days. So they'll probably need a separate production set-up for Thanksgiving only since Amazon and NFL network are not involved in that game at all. They can lease/rent/borrow/steal a full 4k production truck for the night and debut NFL 4k. :biggrin

CBS isn't absent in the 4k sports world either so maybe they'll surprise us?

FOX... meh... maybe they'll let the FS1 boys take over but... they're totally different groups in the same media company, I wouldn't expect it. (CBS Sports and NBC Sports are both children of their overall parent network, FOX and Fox Sports are more like... cousins :biggrin)

Regardless, let's hope that SOMEBODY gets a 4k game on Thanksgiving and I'll have an even better excuses to not travel to the in-laws. :clapping

Great post, awesome insight.
 
Upcoming Events in 4K ...

Now has absolutely NO content upcoming. Which is likely wrong, but just shows how far D* has fallen.

Fallen? Seriously?

DirecTV cannot just invent 4K sports broadcasts. Baseball is over (and I'm seeing reports that some FS1 playoff games may be carried), college football game are decided weekly, and hockey and basketball haven't started yet
 
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Fallen? Seriously?

DirecTV cannot just invent 4K sports broadcasts. Baseball is over (and I'm seeing reports that some FS1 playoff games may be carried), college football game are decided weekly, and hockey and basketball haven't started yet

They missed at least 2 broadcasts on this page. (The FS1 football game and the premier league games from this past weekend)

There is likely a slew of FS1 content pending, like you say.

The loss of Notre Dame games this year is puzzling. Admittedly may not be in their control.

They’re asleep at the wheel, when it comes to this page.
 
They missed at least 2 broadcasts on this page. (The FS1 football game and the premier league games from this past weekend)

There is likely a slew of FS1 content pending, like you say.

The loss of Notre Dame games this year is puzzling. Admittedly may not be in their control.

They’re asleep at the wheel, when it comes to this page.

It is frustrating but I do believe they are at the mercy of the networks. A lot of these broadcasts are still in what I would consider the "experimental" stage. We were literally notified a few days ago of the upcoming MLB playoff 4K broadcasts. We will get all AL rounds in 4K produced by FS1.

You're just setting yourself up for disappointment if you're expecting anything more so early on. I recently spoke to a CSR during my annual bill reduction call and asked that I be emailed of the new 4K updates, and all I got was an email talking about how to purchase the equipment. So yeah, I feel you there.
 
I think the biggest issue with continued expansion is lack of production trucks.

CBS isn't absent in the 4k sports world either so maybe they'll surprise us?

This would be my guess :D. Think of who's playing that game and where ATT is located and what venue the game is being played! :) If wanted to showcase any game at ATT in full blown 4K HDR with Atmos in front of a large audience where everyone is at home watching said game, that's where I would look! :) Remember CBS has tested golf in high dynamic range with MTG HDX-18 to Directv in both 4K and 1080P. If I was to broadcast a premier event, I would want my branding all over the place including the venue. At this point nothing has been announced until you see anything official from ATT its just all speculation. We will find out in 52 days!
 
They missed at least 2 broadcasts on this page. (The FS1 football game and the premier league games from this past weekend)

There is likely a slew of FS1 content pending, like you say.

The loss of Notre Dame games this year is puzzling. Admittedly may not be in their control.

They’re asleep at the wheel, when it comes to this page.

FWIW- I opened a chat request with DTV today asking where the hell is the updated 4K programming for October. They said there is an "issue" with the page and it should be up in 48hrs.
 
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