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That's a good question. Initially, I asked if I gave them a UID from a used unit from eBay if they could tell me if it was free and clear to be added to my account (would be good info to have before the purchase, right?). The answer was somewhat wishy-washy... but essentially "no". Only one CSR...

It sounds like you’re right. Maybe the only, not the main, reason. I wish you well in your future endeavors.

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what about I don't get locals save the $32+/mo and upgrade to an hire tier or maybe add hbo. Also let me drop espn if I don't want it.

No need to rant, rave, and holler, just hang up and call a different CSR. I've installed owned boxes in the past year or so with no problem. Right now the Hopper 3 is under $300 on Amazon. And ignore those negative reviews. For some reason they resurrected a bunch of negative reviews from 2017...

Are you saying that if you would purchase a hopper on ebay that had been deactivated from account and unencumbered, or perhaps a new or refurbished one from a dealer and self install, that they won't activate? I'm not asking what will they tell you prospectively just to deter you....but what...

Thank you. I'm not just some old grouchy guy. I'm a guy with a legit complaint. Thank you for saying that. I'm kinda tired of playing the game. TV should be easier than having to pull all kinds of tricks to get the provider to do for some what they do for others. In a way, this thread is my...

i would bitch!!! this is the first time i heard of them not activating owned boxes. you should not have to lease boxes!!! it took us two months to get em to set up our acct with owned boxes be aware!!! by that time it was me blowing my sprockets yelling and screaming at them :biggrin. what LNB...

we bought everything we own it!! they installed it.. the only reason we have a 2 year is we got the price lock and wheels and deals after i pressed it... we swapped out our joeys we bought em they installed em at no charge since we have the protection plan we bought the joeys from dish for...

If that option was available, someone needs to tell the CSRs. I offered to buy a Hopper and install it... they all said no. I don't know how many times I can say that before someone addresses that fact.

...as long as you let them do the install and start a 2-year.

id'e buy the hopper off of solid signal and own it there's no 2 year also!!! the hopper 3 is 270.00

They want everyone on hoppers!!!

You make good points. In fact, I was looking forward to an internet connected receiver. That's why I offered to buy and install a Hopper. I love the Dish scapes and the Hopper is the only receiver that can get the gallery channel 305 that has all the old ones on it as well as the new ones. Like...

I would have phrased it differently, but yeah... you're essentially correct. The time for help was the multiple times when I was on the phone with Dish offering to buy and install a Hopper (which they all said no to).

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He's not looking for help, just looking to complain.

Got rid of my 211K's a couple years ago and replaced them with Wallys when 211K EOL became apparent. I started monitoring Amazon and ended up buying Wallys earlier this year during one of those "secret sales" that pop up at the end of the month for some vendors when they need cash flow or have...

I remember when aereo would " lease" and antenna and you could get close to 80 local channels with subchannels ( in NYC metro)..it was better than cable

Sorry meant 14.1

I see 14.2 carrying Charge!

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They aren't even interested in that, if you want to install it yourself. I offered that... multiple Dish employees weren't interested. I even offered to buy (pay for) the receiver.

I wouldn't call it "over the top"... and of course... it was a hypothetical... but a very possible hypothetical. If Dish was to get into a dispute with ESPN, that would pretty much render their service useless for my purposes. Basically, the only pay TV that I need... is whatever channel OSU is...