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    Newbie Questions

    If you can find any device in the retail market that records from component inputs, you'd be the first.:eureka -sc
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    622 - how many recordings/viewings at once

    I have a 942 and did the "5 at a time" thing for fun and to test if HDD I/O was sufficient. The 942 is nearly identical to the 622 in this respect. The other thing I thought of that may be different is that the 942 is supposed to be able to tune OTA analog broadcasts as well as...
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    HDTV SD recording time

    More accurately, if the CHANNEL is SD, then the recording takes less space. ESPN-HD broadcasts a lot of SD, and it takes up the same recording time as a real HD program of theirs. You may find that different channels use HDD space at different rates, based on the bitrate you get on reception...
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    622 - how many recordings/viewings at once

    It can record 2 sat channels simultaneously. HD is not relevant, the receiver tunes to the channel and records the stream (HD decoding is done at playback). It can record 1 OTA digital channel, independent of the above. That's up to three simultaneous recordings. Independent of the...
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    We Got A Problem!!!

    The issue we're dealing with here is not what resolutions can or can't be used. It's fairly obvious that the FCC has left that end completely open on purpose, and pointed to the ATSC for "standards" so manufacturers would have at least something to shoot for from a compatibility standpoint...
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    HD-LITE is not that BAD?

    JoeSp-- It doesn't sound like the FCC wants to get into the discussion about the actual definition of HD. They have blatantly omitted a complete definition of the term and have left it to the ATSC. Now they are bouncing complaints over to the FTC as if they have no role in this discussion...
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    What HD channel would you get rid of if you had to?

    Where are these channels? Other than Ultra on Voom, I've never seen them, nor do I see any reference to them in the programming guides at Dish. -sc
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    HD-LITE is not that BAD?

    JoeSP--Do we disagree? I don't recall Fox ever calling it high definition, I do remember vividly seeing the graphic for "High Resolution Widescreen". I just about burned my keyboard at another HD forum about "Faux" thinking that we may have just been loopholed. At the time, the line from Fox...
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    HD-LITE is not that BAD?

    This is the first I've heard of that, certainly not from any substantiated sources. Then again, how credible are the HD-Lite sources?:p Are they even allowed to down-rezz the LiLs when the cable cos. are not? But HD-Lite is not HD That may be true for you, but I'm paying for an HD product, which...
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    HD-LITE is not that BAD?

    Did you hear about the Lindberg baby?:rolleyes: 1280 by 720p is HD 1920 by 1080i/p is HD Always has been, ABC and ESPN have been using the 720p resolution for years now. All sorts of discussion points about which (720p/1080i) is better, but not the subject of this thread. You're missing...
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    What HD channel would you get rid of if you had to?

    TNT-HD has not done anything as far as I can tell. I have yet to see anything on this channel that I would consider HD--it all been upconverts so far--but I've only been with Dish a short time. I have a hard time believing that each and every Voom channel is chock full of riveting content...
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    So, I'm Looking at the FTC Website...

    The only use of the ATSC standards applied to this issue is the commonly accepted definition of the term "high definition". The term is defined through acceptance of the ATSC standards documentation as a supporting document. This doesn't mean anyone has to broadcast to these standards, but if...
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    So, I'm Looking at the FTC Website...

    Zilch about ATSC. The attachements (I've tried to find the web equivalents): Factsheet58.pdf--FCC Consumer Facts Attached DTV Factsheet which is a combo of the two shopping guides at dtv.gov COMMISSION ADOPTS RULES FOR DIGITAL TELEVISION SERVICE I'm getting increasingly annoyed that...
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    So, I'm Looking at the FTC Website...

    I'm shocked, I actually got a response from the FCC. Not exactly the response I'd hoped for, but a response all the same. I actually received three responses, each with a puff-piece attachment. When the HD-Lite starts being delivered and branded as HD, off to the FTC I go. I still wish the...
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    So, I'm Looking at the FTC Website...

    The issue would be settled because they couldn't sell it to me, or anyone else, as their HD package. -sc
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    HGTV and Food Network HD Article

    Giada...Giada...:hungry: -sc
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    So, I'm Looking at the FTC Website...

    I think I've beaten this horse dead in a couple of other threads. You're wrong, the HD definitions are 1920x1080i/p and 1280x720p. The ATSC standard--which no one is required to follow by the way--also mentions two 480i/p resolutions not in this discussion. But don't confuse the adoption of a...
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    Olympics and Mpeg4

    What channel # is that? -sc
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    Can someone summarize whats going on?

    Another option, since you want a 2nd HD receiver, is to upgrade one of your 5xx's to a 622. I believe the price of this sort of upgrade is $299, but it will get you HD in 2 locations--current rumor is that only one HD upgrade per household the first year. The downside is that the 942 will not...
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    Now it is time to write DISH Again.

    Boy, talk about your non-answers. I replied, I couldn't help it.
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    In a Search for the Definition of HD..

    It doesn't put out a square pixel in a 16:9 format (ATSC published standards A/53), and isn't listed in the ATSC standard as a high definition format (ATSC publication A/54). -sc
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    Now it is time to write DISH Again.

    Yes, I noted that. It specifically omits the table of "Compression Format Constraints"--this would require the DTV broadcasts to one of these 18 resolutions. I'm unclear why this would upset people. The consequences of this directive, which could have easily predicted, is to set the standards...
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    Now it is time to write DISH Again.

    If you're referring to me, I'm only hearing crickets. Just found this at atsc.org: FCC Final Report and Recommendation on Advanced Television Service -sc
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    Now it is time to write DISH Again.

    Let's play connect the friggin dots. Code of Federal Regulations, Title 47, Volume 4 -- reference #2 Doc A/53B is not available at atsc.org, but editorial revisions A/53C and A/53D are, which leads the exceptions noted above explicitly to the table where the top two lines are: Compression...
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    Now it is time to write DISH Again.

    D* and DN and cable can put all sorts of definitions on their site, but it does not mean it relieves them of holding to the *real* definition. What we're trying to figure out is who is the owner of the definition. By appearances, it looks like the FCC has delegated that to the ATSC. But does...