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    Charlie Ergen Issues Statement on Net Neutrality Rules

    Deregulation....funny,,, wasnt that the reason at and t got split off from ma bell way back? looking at it now, youd never know, both verizon and at and t would like you to think they are the only game in town. From what I've heard, fairpoint is just a mess, trying to take over all the phone...
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    Charlie Ergen Issues Statement on Net Neutrality Rules

    Yea the vast electronic wasteland that is northern new england. I should note that on the western side of lake champlain, it gets much better. When at and t took over unicel, thy were 'supposed' to invest in the infrastructure, havent seen it yet. Have to go 20 miles south to get a 3g signal...
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    ESPN Picture Quality Worse Recently?

    Does this mean at some point the terms dish and hd become mutually exclusive?
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Couldnt agree more. the ol lady is glued to netflix and as a result, no more premium movie channels.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    I agree with the second part of that, however the first part is way too subjective, kinda hard to decide whats equivalent in any given case. In most cases the refund amounts to a credit rather than an actual refund, In the case of dish, it now amounts to something like 5 bucks for the rsns if...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    I think the majority of them are, though some of the ids are sherbrooke que. The local cablco still carries 4 of them, but theres one they dont, thats the global affilate which comes in really well here, which is doubly cool since they rebroadcast a lot of fox programming...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Just as a caveat, before the switch to digital, the Portland maine ABC affilliate had a tower on Mt washington, which DID come in exceptionally clear where i live. Mileage means crap when you have height.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Yep, someone took the time to check,,
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    google maps is screwed there, did you try champlain ny or plattsburgh? I think i know where I live. The entire valley is perhaps 100 miles, I guess if i lived in glens falls that would be true.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    I dunno, maybe he did the research better than you?
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Maybe where you are thats true, but if you buy into the propaganda, you need a special antenna in most cases, and in most cases thats just isnt true. I live 18 miles from the canadian border in ny, due south of montreal. I have the same antenna I had before the switch, a 40 dollar ?(at the time)...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Correct, but at one time newscorp did own a piece of direct.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    seriously? Is that the propaganda they're spouting now?
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Makes too much sense, therefore it will never be done :P
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Politics, pure and simple.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    What he said. Im not blowing sunshine up dish's butt here, but I wouldnt be here if i thought it was only a few pennies, apparently some of us dont like to read the whole thread.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    gee I guess the 50 or so percent rate increase they're allegedly asking for is reasonable?
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Make stuff up? Hmm I guess fox is not being stubborn asking for for a double digit rate increase at a time when most everyone's income is a lot less disposable. It's rubbish because some of you refuse to take your head out of the sand and see where this is going. I got a really hard time...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Make stuff up? Hmm I guess fox is not being stubborn asking for for a double digit rate increase at a time when most everyone's income is a lot less disposable. It's rubbish because some of you refuse to take your head out of the sand and see where this is going. I got a really hard time...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Rubbish. Seems to me all dish has to do is prove they didnt pull the plug and fox did, makes perfect sense as to why they let fox do all the plug pulling.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Seems kinda moot, no judge is going to rule against dish if they have no control over what got pulled.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Dunno about that, there arent as many O and O stations as you might think, yes there are some for whom fox negotiates for however. Even if dish caves, we shouldnt. What happens with this will determine in large part what we will be paying for tv in the coming months and years.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    So the argument is because everyone else is doing it? And because ol Charlie doesn't want to that makes the whole deal his fault? Hmm...I don't give a rats ass if he is protecting his margins, It's still the right thing to do.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    lol, statements like that are at least part of the reason for price increases.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    This is all hilarious, all of us believe that we shouldnt have to pay for crap we don't want or watch, but at the end of the day there's nothing we can do about it. Seems it's the only way providers can sustain their bloated pockets and even more bloated list of garbage that passes for...
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