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Clarification of DVB-S2 and HD

Discussion in 'Free To Air (FTA) Discussion' started by Elchucko, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. Elchucko

    Elchucko Thread Starter Member

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    I have noticed several sat receivers that claim to be HD capable but do not mention DVB-S2. So I am asking if someone can clarify this for me:

    a. Can a DVB-S receiver display a HD signal (i don't think so)?

    b. Are all HD FTA receivers capable of receiving DVB-S2?

    c. If a receiver is DVB-S2, does it also mean it is HD capable?

    I am in Germany right now and have looked at the receivers available (saw about 20 different ones today), ranging in price from €20 to €300 and nothing seems to compare to my MicroHD!
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  2. Scott Greczkowski

    Scott Greczkowski Welcome To SatelliteGuys! Staff Member HERE TO HELP YOU!

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    A) Yes, there was HD on FTA long before S2.

    B) No

    C) Yes... I dont know of one that is not. :)
  3. i4tas

    i4tas Active SatelliteGuys Member

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    1) YES - the majority can't though, but there do exist dvb-s2 receivers with good enough resolution output for hd
    2) NO
    3) NO - PCI/USB tuners are DVB-S2 but have no video capability on-board.

    DVB-S2 is the coding technologies used on the signal, where as HD is a label for picture quality. They have nothing to do with eachother, besides the fact DVB-S2 supplies a higher throughput of bits, which is consumed by HD video.
  4. AcWxRadar

    AcWxRadar SatelliteGuys Family Pub Member / Supporter

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    Hi Elchucko,

    So you really like your MicroHD quite well? It is working well for you in Deutchland? Awesome! I have been pondering ordering one, and I have heard many positive reports. But alas, I am not able to get my dish farm set back up at this current point in time. I think I may place an order for one MicroHD soon so that I will be ready to start off early in the spring with a NEW play toy.

    RADAR
  5. chaskuchar

    chaskuchar Active SatelliteGuys Member Pub Member / Supporter

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    radar, i have two microhd's now and my azbox is sitting on the shelf... charlie
  6. Iceberg

    Iceberg We're here....RUN!!!! Supporting Founder

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    1. yes. There are older DVB-S receivers that can show HD. They are outdated as they cant do S2 but I remember the Neusat 9000 (I think that was the model number) that can do DVB-S HD. Pansat 9200 requires a DVB-S2 board to be added but can get DVB HD otherwise
    2. no...see point 1 ;) But most of the new HD receivers can do DVB-S2.
    3. yes
  7. Elchucko

    Elchucko Thread Starter Member

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    I am only here for the holiday season and didn't bring my MicroHD with me, but am familiar enough with it to make a comparison to what I can find here. I am considering the purchase of another receiver if I can find one reasonably priced that I could use to watch while recording on the MicroHD, or with additional features. So far it has been a non-productive search. It is very strange that most receivers advertise HD compatibility but do not mention DVB-S2.

    I started my FTA years in the early 90's here in Germany and have continued with it off and on since then. As a full time RVer for the past 8-9 years, FTA has been a challenge. I am now using my MotoSat steerable dish to lock onto a satellite and watch with my MicroHD. I canceled my Hughesnet satellite service and now use a MiFI for internet service, so the Motosat system can be used to scan any Ku sat. It is a lot slower to move from sat to sat but I can fine tune and peak any sat that it can see. Whenever I am stationary for a while, I set up a tripod with a second dish.
  8. Lak7

    Lak7 SatelliteGuys Family Pub Member / Supporter

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    That kind of info is usually in the units "Specifications" tab - if looking online.
  9. Elchucko

    Elchucko Thread Starter Member

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    It is very strange that most receivers advertise HD compatibility but do not mention DVB-S2.
    I am talking about what is written on the box. It is unusual in North America but in Europe you can actually see a full array of sat receivers in a store, pick them up, look them over and read the specifications on the box! Media Markt (similar to Best Buy) carries 15-20 different receivers in most of their stores.
  10. SatelliteAV

    SatelliteAV SatelliteGuys Family Pub Member / Supporter

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    Media Markt is an amazing experience. Great thing about the German market is the availability of quality products.

    In Europe, HD marketed STBs are S2, MPEG4 and h.264 capable. Don't expect much from functions such as blindscan and motor control since most receivers are connected to fixed dishes on one or two satellites for 24/7 channels.
  11. Tron

    Tron SatelliteGuys Family

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    If you buy a receiver overseas, be sure that it is capable of being powered from 120VAC/60hz and that it is capable of displaying North American resolutions (for example 1080i60, not just 1080i50).
  12. Elchucko

    Elchucko Thread Starter Member

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    Good point about the resolution. Most products today are 100-250 volt/50-60hz. For the rare exception I have reversed the wiring in a 220 to 110 transformer that I used in Europe for years. It is now a step-up instead of a step-down.

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