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Discussion in 'Free To Air (FTA) Discussion' started by chadg2, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. chadg2

    chadg2 Thread Starter Active SatelliteGuys Member

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    Will they or can they ever make a FTA Receiver like the Micro HD that can display 4.2.2 HD Live? I can't understand why or how this can be so hard to manufacture. I can record it off my OpenBox to HDD and play it back on my computer, but can't watch it live on the big screen. I know there are boxes that can display this, but I like the simple format of the OpenBox and Pansat receivers. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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  2. Lone Gunman

    Lone Gunman Active SatelliteGuys Member

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    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on this but from what I understand it's not an issue with being able to display it on hardware but more an issue of having permission to build that "codec" into the system, ie, some hoops to jump through to be able to use it.

    FWIW, those feeds have been going away in recent years and speculation is that some time in the not too distant future they won't be around any more.

    I've got two AZBoxes and two Openbox S9s and knowing what I know now I never would have ever bought an AZBox. I can't remember the last time there was something I wanted to see that was 4.2.2 and I do watch a LOT of sports.
  3. SatelliteAV

    SatelliteAV SatelliteGuys Family Pub Member / Supporter

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    There are no permissions or licensing required for 4:2:2 implementation into a STB.

    It is purely a hardware availability and the cost of implementation. DVB Satellite chipsets typically don't incorporate 4:2:2 and multimedia chipsets typically don't incorporate DVBS. Direct to home formats will control market development. Chipset maufacturers see 4:2:2 as extremely niche. Very few chipsets natively support 4:2:2 and those that do, are very expensive.

    Sigma multimedia chipsets are unique as they offered basic support for DVBS modules. Sigma support for DVBS applications is diminishing and I doubt that you will see any new DVBS projects based on these chipsets.

    The apparent best chance for development is increased Android support for DVBS. Once better DVBS support is provided for Android platform development, many options become available. Many new DVBT projects are now available for Android and the technology has been slow to trickle over to DVBS. Quite a bit of European DTH money has been placed into DVBT2 development in the past 1.5 years. The DVBT2 Android SDK is providing the best tools for future DVBS2 STB development.

    Is there a reason that you don't buy a AZbox? Not very expensive if you need 4:2:2 in a STB.
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  4. chadg2

    chadg2 Thread Starter Active SatelliteGuys Member

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    I was waiting for the new AZBox to come out and when it did I've heard not so good things about the software within the AZ. For that much money I want it to work. I've fought my OpenBox enough with software issues and hardware quirks. And Lone Gunman I'm talking about CBS feeds & shows that are 4.2.2 Those might be the ones you speak of going away. I hope not!
  5. Lak7

    Lak7 SatelliteGuys Family Pub Member / Supporter

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    Keep in mind that quite a few of those feeds only have DolbyE Audio, which made my AZBox Elite choke, requiring the use of PC Sat Card and commercial Audio Decoder.

    It would be very nice if a STB could properly bitstream that type Audio via SPDIF, but none of the boxes I tried can.
  6. Lak7

    Lak7 SatelliteGuys Family Pub Member / Supporter

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    Can the MicroHD "http" stream to a PC with HDMI Video Card, running something like VLC, MPC-HC, or even Graphedit? Like TSReader can.
  7. SatelliteAV

    SatelliteAV SatelliteGuys Family Pub Member / Supporter

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    The microHD does not IP stream. No IP capability with hardware. I often DVR and play out on a PC.
  8. wallyhts

    wallyhts SatelliteGuys Family Staff Member

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    You could use a HDMI capture card and then multicast that out with VLC. However that still will not display a 4:2:2 feed.

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