Help finding Amazonas Satellite

Discussion in 'Free To Air (FTA) Discussion' started by truesky10, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. truesky10

    truesky10 Thread Starter New Member

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    Morning guys, First post ever, even though I been reading your posts for quite a while.
    As far as I can see, the Amazonas Satellite is on the C-band, and there is a lot of people arguing that they can/can't get the feed of this satellite here in the USA.
    I live in south Ohio, and by trial and error I only get a 20% quality, with a 94% force reception on the signal.
    I have an older model azbox I brought up from south america where I had a guy install it for me, and now I would like to have it installed over here.
    So, for anyone kind enough to provide me with some guides/ apps, etc I will be glad to start doing the proper research there and start doing the aiming of my dish over there.
    Sorry for being so vague still, but I can't seem to understans all the concepts yet. And yes, I am still reading the forums. I just need a little guidance here.
    Thank you for anyone willing to answer to my post.
     
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  2. hd fan

    hd fan Active SatelliteGuys Member

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    Welcome to the forum and let me tell you I get both bands fine here in Toronto with a 6 footer. I also think this will end up moved to the proper section , maybe the general FTA area. There is also a couple of TP active on the Ku side receivable that far north, from the new Amazonas 2. make sure you set the proper LNB skew value , and obviously the Elevation and Azimuth. Also check your LNB/switches settings on the antena menu.

    And now on the funny side , if it was morning at 3 pm then by now should be Afternoon, lol. I am sure more people will chime in with help but we need more details like type of dish/lnb and the likes.
     
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  3. truesky10

    truesky10 Thread Starter New Member

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    Thank you for your reply and the welcoming thoughts. I thought you should be able to capture the signal, I am just too dumb in the fact on how this works ATM. So proper schooling should do the trick :).
    Anyways, i'll get all the info for the LBN here in a few to post it back. The dish is a small dish 6inch radius I believe. I'll check that again as well. I got the dish pointer pro as well to know the location of the satellite.
    i'll post back and we'll see if I can figure it out!
    Thanks again!
     
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  4. guacharaca

    guacharaca Active SatelliteGuys Member

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    A 12 inch pizza pan? Amazonas can be received in South America with a larger pizza pan but there is no chance using such a dish here for the same satellite. You need a BUD (big ugly dish) for C-band or a larger ku dish for Amazonas2, which only had a test signal last time I checked.
     
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  5. truesky10

    truesky10 Thread Starter New Member

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    Hi again, and sorry for the late reply. I have a KU NLBN, and a small dish 9 inch. and yes I get no signal at all. I used dish pointer pro, and I do see the satellite position up in the sky though. According to the hispat document about the satelittle is should work on the KU band up here in ohio. Now, I can be completely mistaken about this, since I am no expert, reason why I am looking for advice.
    Anyways, all I know is that it is located on 61 degrees west.
     
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  6. GenBap

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    Here is a quick tutorial to check the possibility of receiving Amazonas in Ohio. If you will go to this link ( Amazonas @ 61.0° West Frequencies ) you will see that there is some C-band (requiring 6 foot dish or larger) programming for North America (you can recognize C-band by looking at the black numbers under frequency polarization - 4 numbers or 5 numbers followed by H or V, 4 numbers = cband, 5 numbers = ku band) so starting with ku band 10975V you will see that all the KU band is for Brazil and/or South America. So reception from Amazonas 1 is not going to happen for you. There is some North America KU reception on Amazonas 2 ( Amazonas 2 @ 61.0° West Frequencies ). I am able to receive good signal on 12172V which has God TV and Fashion (interesting combo). Sathint.com however says you will likely need a 30 inch dish to pick up ku band in Ohio.

    So your 9 inch dish will likely get you nothing on Amazonas or anywhere else for that matter. Hate to discourage you but you will need a bigger dish. I hope this was helpful.
     
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  7. truesky10

    truesky10 Thread Starter New Member

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    GenBap,
    Thank you very much for the very illustrative post. I am guessing that is why I am never getting more than 20% quality of the signal, even though the plate provides me with 94 to 97% signal force.
    I guess the first thing I need to do is get me a bigger dish and then figure out if it will allow me to capture the signal of amazonas or any other satellite. Now, something I have not tried is to see if I can get the signal of other satelites here at my location, so I will try to do that next and see what I get.
    I'll keep everyone posted as soon as I get time to work on this again. In the meantime, thank you very much for everyone's input! It is definetly learning experience.
    Truesky
     
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  8. Bongu

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    A 30 inch dish is what many consider the bare minimum for reception of the linear Ku band FTA signals in North America. I am in the Chicago area and I am able to receive the Ku signals from Amazonas at 61w as well as Hispasat at 30w on a 33" dish. I have line of sight to the Eastern horizon and I have not seen anything East of Hispasat from my location. I have not tried to receive either of these satellite's C-band signals.

    To answer the title of this thread, you are getting yourself into a great hobby that has yet to really catch on in the US.
     
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  9. guacharaca

    guacharaca Active SatelliteGuys Member

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    If you are confused why you receive a strong signal, it is because the signal comes from 61.5W rather than 61.0 W. There is no quality because it is a circular signal to be received by a circular lnb while your lnb is correctly a linear lnb for amazonas. With a bigger dish, you will be able to focus on 61 which will also cut out the cross signal from 61.5. If it is Spanish language channels that you seek, there is a Spanish language channel on each of 79W, 93W & 125W, all which can be received with a 33 inch or larger ku dish. In the land of dishes, bigger is always better.
     
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