Netflix on gaming machines.

Discussion in 'Video Game Reviews & Discussions' started by Don Landis, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. Don Landis

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    Considering Netflix again as my loss of Blockbuster due to bankruptcy probability is close at hand.

    A few questions for those that currently use it:

    I have both XBOX360 and PS3.

    1. I would assume that both perform the same but XBOX is more expensive to use due to the XBOX LIVE Gold requirement which adds $4.17 per month. Is there any advantage to using XBOX for Netflix to justify the additional $4.17 per month cost?

    2. Re: Blue Ray and HD movies- I assume HD movies are not possible for download but only via mail. If you want Blu Ray added to the account, I understand this costs $2 add on for this feature. When you order a movie that is available in Blu Ray, will they just send you the standard DVD if it is available? Or can you specify BluRay only? If you specify BluRay only, what is typical today for a wait time? Last I polled Netflix subscribers, the wait was awful, almost making Blu Ray impossible to get except for very old titles. So what's typical for a new release?

    3. According to the Netflix website, to do PS3 they have to send you a disk you need to insert while nothing like that is mentioned for XBOX. If I have both game machines, can my account work for both?

    4. What are the typical file sizes for downloads? DVD quality is about 6Gb per movie average. Does Netflix shrink the file size for downloads? If so how much degradation do you get on the big screen with a PS3 vs. standard DVD?

    5. Pricing:
    PS3:
    Blu Ray account $8.99 + $2 = 10.99 per month. one out at a time plus unlimited downloads.

    XBOX360
    Blu Ray account $8.99 +$2 + 4.17 = $15.16 for one out at a time plus unlimited downloads.

    Are these costs accurate?
     
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  2. meStevo

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    1. Searching is coming to the 360 this fall, and IMO it has a better UI. UI on PS3 is the same as Roku and BD players I believe.

    2. I don't use mail

    3. Account will work for both, just not simultaneously. Need disc in drive for PS3... I believe later PS3 Plus subscribers will get the ability to lose the disc, but not sure where that's at. Can also get a disc for Wii, free of charge.

    4. No idea. HD is not Blu-Ray by any means, but clearly (hah) HD.

    5. MS just announced the first price hike for the Live service, so may tack on a couple more bucks unless you invest in some time cards now. I typically buy it a couple years at a time when they're on sale... think the last 2 annual sub cards I got were maybe $20 each.

    There are other things coming to Live you may benefit from as well, such as ESPN3 if your provider supports it (and if you are into any sports at all) and I think some of the Kinect video connectivity will require it if you are interested in Kinect at all.

    I'd proabably lean toward PS3 due to costs, but the 360's got a nicer UI and much more convenient to not have to put a disc in the drive.
     
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    I use them both, and they are comparable. I have noticed that occasionally the 360 will change the quality mid stream if my wife gets online and uses alot of bandwidth, and the PS3 never seems to do that.

    I do like the fact that there is no disc used with the 360 though, and I use live for gaming, so to me, yes it is worth the extra cost per month, and can be even cheaper if you get it on sale. If you are not into gaming at all, or the other features (such as the coming ESPN3) then it may not be worth the extra cost.

    They both deliver comparable PQ. HD is good, not great. SD is decent. Nothing I would complain about.

    About your 2nd question, yes, HD streaming is available, and I do not think you have to add Blu-Ray to your account to access it. And yes, you can specify the blu-ray format when you fill your que as far as a physical disc goes. Wait time has not seemed excessive to me on Blu-Ray, but obviously, you may wait longer to get big name titles, then again you may get it first try. The time it takes to get a new movie after you have sent one back is generally a day for me.

    All in all, I have been pleased with netflix, both mail and streaming.
     
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    ROKU is only $60 to $70 bucks and it works great
     
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    Thanks for the detailed replies.

    I have not been a fan of the Netflix system but when the system changes I am willing to change my mind.

    XBOX360 Live Gold- I do understand that having it will add certain additional uses not related to movie rentals but I have to learn what they are that adds value for ME. At any rate, last evening I saw they have a deal for the 3 month service for $3.33 per month so I signed up. After I did that they give me the opportunity to extend that price for an additional 12 months for the same price to be billed on my card in November. I may take advantage of that before it expires at the end of the day and then not have to worry about cost on Live Gold for awhile.

    I'm happy to hear Netflix is doing better with their timing on BluRay. That is important to me. I know Blockbuster has had me spoiled with the movie / game pass. It has allowed me to screen games even better than the free samplers from Xbox. I haven't played games much on the PS3 mainly because the controller, to me, feels sloppy.

    juan- can you describe what value added ROKU offers? Just to say it works great doesn't tell me much. I'll do some research on it myself too.
    I've already done some updates on the XstreamHD but not excited about it due to individual cost per movie. I don't think is is up and running yet anyway.
     
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    There is no "subscription" for ROKU..you just have to subscribe to netflix.. its a small black box that has a wireless connection to your internet router and a HDMI connection for your TV.. The model I Have does 720P (They have other models that may do higher speeds) It can also support Dolby 5.1. You can also "Subscribe" to MLB and buy Amazon PPV's. Roku Digital Video Player | Watch Netflix, Amazon Video On Demand and MLB.TV on Roku Player
     
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    I don't own a 360, but my brother has one and it functioned very similar to our PS3s. However, we primarily use Netflix with our Tivos because: better interface, no goofy DVD to load, just easier to so all our TV, Netflix, Youtube viewing from the Tivo. I would probably consider using the PS3 Netflix app if Sony were to add a TV-tuner with DVR functionality.
     
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    I stream on netflix on four devices, a wii,ps3,360, and Visio tv.
    nothing is better than using a computer but the 360 comes close.
     
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    Don, you may also want to give VUDU a look. It is a PPV type format, but they have a huge selection of HD movies, and the PQ is fantastic. Might be a gap filler at least.

    It is available on a stand alone box, although these are getting to be harder to find (check ebay), and built into many of the newer blu-ray players and TVs.
     
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    I feel that all of the above, maybe wii aside, would be better than using a computer.
    What, in your opinion, makes a computer better?
     
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    Live stream of Stars Play plus you can search quicker
     
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    It sounds like you've kinda already removed Live from the equation, if that's the case it's 360 no contest.

     
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    The Wii option is a pretty nice interface as well. I personally actually like the Wii interface better than the 360 one.
     
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    We used the Roku/Wii/PS3 style Netflix interface on our Sammy BD player and it felt so clunky compared to the 360s, have you used both or just the Wii?

    That video above touches on that a little too. Wife hated it, and led in part to us getting a 2nd 360.
     
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    I am having some trouble extending the xbox live gold to 12 months. Keeps telling me to try later. Not sure why.

    I signed up for the Netflix trial to see how it looks. The PQ is barely acceptable but it will do for low grade movies. Others, will have to wait for the BluRay to arrive. I've only tried it so far on the xbox but will try the PS3 later. Also, I want to check out the iPad. With pc, iPad and my HT devices it may work for me.

    thanks again for all the comments.
     
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    If you want the best quality from Netflix you want a Roku box.

    I have Netflix on my PS3, my XBOX360, my Sony BluRay Play, built into my Pioneer 3DTV, in my WD Live Plus and also PlayOn and the Roku PQ is much better then any of the other players.
     
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    I quit using a 360 for Netflix streaming and use the computer. One reason is you have to use a computer to add to your queue then watch on the 360. With a PC you can browse/search, then watch instantly
     
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    Used both of them. I have the 360 also but keep going back to the Wii for Netflix.
     
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    I am sure the interface is nice, but lack of "hd" would be killer for me.
     
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    Don, when I first started using netflix streaming the pq was barely acceptable, over time it has seemingly gotten better IMO. Not sure what the difference has been.

    As of now, it is not sat hd quality, but it is pretty decent.

    Maybe you should try the ruku player though, by all accounts I have seen, it is the best for pq.

    Be sure to check out the other options mentioned for fillers though. Vudu rocks for selection and PQ as far as internet viewing goes.
     
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