Trench cost question beyond 50 feet

brotato · Mar 23, 2009

Hey guys.

I've heard some conflicting information and people at DNS I've talked too don't seem to know, but maybe somebody here does.

I need to know the cost per foot beyond 50 that DISH technically charges for trenching. I can't find a straight answer anywhere and I need to know this for some training. I've seen 50 cents, 75 cents, and a $1 per foot, and nobody seems to know the correct answer.

Thanks for any help you guys can give.

KAB · Mar 23, 2009

Call and ask a local retailer.

hyperguy · Mar 23, 2009

For me it usually depends on the customers attitude and the way he acts on what charge.

dishcomm · Mar 23, 2009

brotato said:
Hey guys.

I've heard some conflicting information and people at DNS I've talked too don't seem to know, but maybe somebody here does.

I need to know the cost per foot beyond 50 that DISH technically charges for trenching. I can't find a straight answer anywhere and I need to know this for some training. I've seen 50 cents, 75 cents, and a $1 per foot, and nobody seems to know the correct answer.

Thanks for any help you guys can give.

my shop charges $1.50 per foot.

Jared Twomey · Mar 23, 2009

my shop charges $2/ foot

Agonizing Fury · Mar 24, 2009

My shop says just trench it. Keep in mind however that DishPro Equipment is only rated to about 200ft of total cable from the Dish to the receiver (can't remember the exact amount). This includes the length of interior cables, so if you have a big house, anything over 100ft of trenching might not happen anyways.

alk753 · Mar 24, 2009

Haqve them lay the cable and trench it yourself with a spade beyond the 50ft.

Claude Greiner · Mar 25, 2009

Im a DISH Network sales partner and I don't even know the ansewer and we send Jobs to DNSC all day long..

First of all I have yet to see a customer pay for trenching, installers usually don't do it and lay the cable on the grass, and I bet you if a customer was willing to pay nobod would know what to charge them.

sca · Mar 25, 2009

ive never heard of any charge like that. i hate trenching 50 feet but i'm not going to call dish and tell them they have to charge the customer more just cause i got stuck with an install with a little extra work.
but if your're concerned you could always offer to help or trench past 50 feet yourself. i dont see why there would be an extra cost in that situation.

sca · Mar 25, 2009

Claude Greiner said:
Im a DISH Network sales partner and I don't even know the ansewer and we send Jobs to DNSC all day long..

First of all I have yet to see a customer pay for trenching, installers usually don't do it and lay the cable on the grass, and I bet you if a customer was willing to pay nobod would know what to charge them.

installers lay cable on the grass when the customer says 'don't worry, i'll bury it myself' and it is signed and noted on the work order.
of course the customer may never get around to this.

PATECO · Mar 26, 2009

I am a local retailer, and we charge $125 extra for a pole mount plus $2 per foot past 50"

dishcomm · Mar 26, 2009

Claude Greiner said:
Im a DISH Network sales partner and I don't even know the ansewer and we send Jobs to DNSC all day long..

First of all I have yet to see a customer pay for trenching, installers usually don't do it and lay the cable on the grass, and I bet you if a customer was willing to pay nobod would know what to charge them.

We bury it. And we charge for anything over 50ft. We just make it clear before the install is begun. If it's excessive we can and do sometimes get the customer to agree to bury it themselves. And they must sign off to that effect. CYA.
It's pretty easy to convey to the customer what is and is not included in a basic install. And they usually agree once we explain and then show them the Service Agreeemnt form.
Never had problem with collecting the fees.

PBX_Guy · Mar 28, 2009

PATECO said:
I am a local retailer, and we charge $125 extra for a pole mount plus $2 per foot past 50"

and of course these $125 pole mounts of yours (that DNS does @ no extra charge) are absolutely, perfectly dead-level plumb.........

PBX_Guy · Mar 28, 2009

dishcomm said:
We bury it. And we charge for anything over 50ft. We just make it clear before the install is begun. If it's excessive we can and do sometimes get the customer to agree to bury it themselves. And they must sign off to that effect. CYA.
It's pretty easy to convey to the customer what is and is not included in a basic install. And they usually agree once we explain and then show them the Service Agreeemnt form.
Never had problem with collecting the fees.

Saw a D* Facia board install one time where 'Bozo' laid 2 figure-8 cables in the rain gutter & dropped it down the downspout. Saw another one time in Iowa where one of Cox Cable's 'Bozos' ran his through the furnace vents to get to an upstairs bedroom. If he did it once, you just know he's done it before.

Have another shining example of craftsmanship right here in my own yard where the DNS 'Bozo' did a pole mount too close to the side of the house to give himself clear shot 129. Then he cut off a 12" piece of ground rod and drove that in the ground at his entry point, calling it "good" (bzzzzt!! wrong). I made a note on the bottom of his service ticket that the grounding did not meet NEC requirements, but never heard a word back from anyone.

Each example stands as irrefutable proof that it's far more important to meet your daily job quota than do a proper install.

Bob Haller · Mar 29, 2009

run the coax inside flexible conduit for protection.

thatr way it can be barely covered with dirt, rather than deep job digging detail.

dishcomm · Mar 29, 2009

PBX_Guy said:
and of course these $125 pole mounts of yours (that DNS does @ no extra charge) are absolutely, perfectly dead-level plumb.........

what's your point?
Are you implying that the other poster does substandard work?
See this is the problem I have with the uninformed and those who make assumptions based solely on their own relentless cynicism.
It appears you assume that the pole mounts mentioned above are not of good quality and of course based on that assumption, those pole mounts should be done at no extra charge. The nerve.
BTW I saw the wink. If you're just kidding then disregard. If you're not making a joke, then here's to ya.

dishcomm · Mar 29, 2009

PBX_Guy said:
Saw a D* Facia board install one time where 'Bozo' laid 2 figure-8 cables in the rain gutter & dropped it down the downspout. Saw another one time in Iowa where one of Cox Cable's 'Bozos' ran his through the furnace vents to get to an upstairs bedroom. If he did it once, you just know he's done it before.

Have another shining example of craftsmanship right here in my own yard where the DNS 'Bozo' did a pole mount too close to the side of the house to give himself clear shot 129. Then he cut off a 12" piece of ground rod and drove that in the ground at his entry point, calling it "good" (bzzzzt!! wrong). I made a note on the bottom of his service ticket that the grounding did not meet NEC requirements, but never heard a word back from anyone.

Each example stands as irrefutable proof that it's far more important to meet your daily job quota than do a proper install.

You are brining up examples of poor installs. This discussion is about collecting legitimate fees for legitimately chargeable work.
So let me ask..Is it your contention that we should NEVER be paid for extra services even though the Service Agreement has limits? THat question based on your apparent assumpton that you believe the work will ALWAYS be not to your liking?
Why don't you come out of the shadows and stop the cryptic nonsense.
One thingI will agree on is yes, the powers that be want numbers. They want quality. But techs in some shops are told to meet numbers or they won't get work. So they will slap it in. Until the work slows then they go back behind everyone and QC by the strictest interpretation of the rules.
I don't have to worry about that because my work is tby the book anyway. I just assume that all jobs are QC's and work that way.
So please ,don't you go lumping in all of the techs in the same boat because you're bitter about your POS job.
If you were so concerend about it, you'd have called and complained and then had the thing fixed.. Did you?.

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