Does DirecTV have an answer to Hopper3/HopperGo?

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I too think it is ridiculous that we need a gene mini for 4K, I told the guy but I only have the one TV, so you mean I need two boxes for one TV? We have a nice thread going about the new NASA UHD channel we have been testing. You can sure tell 4K when its done properly for sure, even my kids could tell the difference. I have to say though, what the heck did they do to the remote system on the HR34, its sometimes 4-5 seconds before it responds?

ALSO wile we are at it, I wish someone would answer the question: Why do we have to have HD equipment to receive a down converted SD NASA channel, NASA TV is full time HD, yet DIRECTV down converts it to SD on channel 352.

OH and why cant we save or scheduled recordings online or something?
 
Scott Greczkowski said:
Having seen an 8K TV side by side with a 4K TV today, I can tell you that I personally could not see a difference in the picture.

8K is more of a large format picture, anything small and you won't see the difference in picture quality.
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The only industry right now that uses 8k is the Medical for MRI's and CT's. There is no real 8k programming or even equipment that can handle it.

If and when 8k comes along. That means more transponders are taken away for that type of feed.
 
mdram said:
how do you one up 16 tuners? maybe 22 to max out the new swm?
that is an odd number
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My guess is an 11 tuner genie, that you can have up to 2 for redundancy. That would actually be a competition feature, instead of putting all eggs in one basket, as Dish has become so fond of with this release. I still think that was a fail on their part, but the shear number makes it a compelling argument for either side.
 
lparsons21 said:
And that probably will happen at some point, but it doesn't change the fact that Dish has yet again shown their ability to produce the best satellite equipment.

I doubt that DirecTV will have anything close to it in the near future.


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We don't know if this is any better than any other.

It all sounds nice, but we don't know until we've used it.

Everyone loved the HR34 when it came out, now most don't like it at all.
 
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Jimbo said:
We don't know if this is any better than any other.

It all sounds nice, but we don't know until we've used it.

Everyone loved the HR34 when it came out, now most don't like it at all.
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But most people that use the existing Hoppers tend to love them already. This is just extending the abilities of what is currently offered to a level that is not seen before. Not even with the new TIVO Bolt.
 
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alnielsen said:
With all the bandwidth available on RB and so little 4K programming, I foresee D* using it for 1080P programs.
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Right now there are only 4 TPs live on 99cr. And the bandwidth on 103cr is probably unusable until the US and Canada sort out their dispute about that band in the 103 slot.
 
Sometimes the Installers make me wonder! When the tech came out to my house to change out my HR24 with the HR34 I opened the equipment closet for him and said there's the receiver, I only have the one receiver! My closet has a 24 port switch and router with 20+ network cables and in-fact the old receiver was connected via Ethernet cable. He turns to me and says "where's your broadband DECA?" I simply said I don't have nor need one sir.
 
ChadT41 said:
But most people that use the existing Hoppers tend to love them already. This is just extending the abilities of what is currently offered to a level that is not seen before. Not even with the new TIVO Bolt.
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That doesn't mean anything .... nothing says the new product will be better ...
D* had the HR20 that was very good in it's time, then next came the HR21, 22 and 23, all were not as good as the HR20, then came the HR24 and everything changed ...
 
My HR24 was great but I had horrible range on the RF remote. Now with the HR34 the range is good but the remote sometimes takes a long time to respond.

The tech gave me an RC73 also when I asked for an RF remote, which doesn't work with the HR34 in RF mode.
 
Claude Greiner said:
I find it amazing that from a company that has been telling all of us that the average household only needs 2 Tuners for the past 4 years, that all of a sudden thinks there is a need for 16 tuners.

And we still don't really have an answer if 16 tuners is really 13 because of prime time anytime.

The average consumer could care less about the number of tuners. At the end of the day it's the same crappy dish service.

This is a DVR designed for satellite guys members, and satellite guys members only.

Do I want a 16 tuner hopper? YES

Am I going to switch my service from Directv back to Dish? HELL NO

I'll do just fine with my Genie and 6 HR24's and record 17 things at once.
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The idea or strategy is to market an end to timer recording/watch live TV/household member conflict using a single true whole home DVR.. 16 tuners sure seems more than enough.

This is clearly Dish finally getting serious about its churn and net loss of subscribers. Dish needs an H3 far more than DTV needs anything like it, FOR NOW. Users of H3, and I do mean the masses of non-techies, won't focus on the number tuners, just that they no lnger experience timer conflicts in the family household. They probably won't recall the number of tuners, but just find satisfaction with no longer dealing with timer conflicts. That's all Joe Blow and Suzie Q care about in a whole home experience as it relates to tuner count.

Please, the notion Dish spent and will spend significant $$$ of R&D money, not charge an upgrade fee, no change in other fees, and clearly promote H3 as the successor to H2 only to build it to the puny number of SatGuys members compared compared to the millions of subs and potential subs makes no sense. For every "crappy Dish service" story I have a "crappy DirecTV service" story and a "crappy TiVo experience" story. Only cable has more "crappy service" stories, of which Charter reigns supreme.
 
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Jimbo said:
That doesn't mean anything .... nothing says the new product will be better ...
D* had the HR20 that was very good in it's time, then next came the HR21, 22 and 23, all were not as good as the HR20, then came the HR24 and everything changed ...
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Sounds like you are looking for a reason not to like Dish, more than anything.
 
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DishSubLA said:
The idea or strategy is to market an end to timer recording/watch live TV/household member conflict using a single true whole home DVR.. 16 tuners sure seems more than enough.

This is clearly Dish finally getting serious about its churn and net loss of subscribers. Dish needs an H3 far more than DTV needs anything like it, FOR NOW. Users of H3, and I do mean the masses of non-techies, won't focus on the number tuners, just that they no lnger experience timer conflicts in the family household. They probably won't recall the number of tuners, but just find satisfaction with no longer dealing with timer conflicts. That's all Joe Blow and Suzie Q care about in a whole home experience as it relates to tuner count.

Please, the notion Dish spent and will spend significant $$$ of R&D money, not charge an upgrade fee, no change in other fees, and clearly promote H3 as the successor to H2 only to build it to the puny number of SatGuys members compared compared to the millions of subs and potential subs makes no sense. For every "crappy Dish service" story I have a "crappy DirecTV service" story and a "crappy TiVo experience" story. Only cable has more "crappy service" stories, of which Charter reigns supreme.
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I agree with the majority of what your saying here ....
The people here, are familiar with all this stuff, but the avg user really doesn't know how many tuners he has, as long as he can record and not have the Conflict error show up, he's good.
 
rapidturtle said:
I've never had a conflict with my 5 tuners. I really hope that I don't watch that much T.V. to utilize 16 tuners.
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Me neither ....

If ya think about it, thats not recording 5 things, thats recording 5 DIFFERENT Channels at the SAME TIME ...

Heres hoping that I can get another HR44 on my account some time soon .... different set up.
 
If all the shows I record were not also on-demand I guess I would like more then 5 tuners. If I can ever get out of the city then I would record everything since I will probably have the worse internet connection possible out in the country.
 
BigRyan said:
If all the shows I record were not also on-demand I guess I would like more then 5 tuners. If I can ever get out of the city then I would record everything since I will probably have the worse internet connection possible out in the country.
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Where abouts in Texas are you ?
 
Got to wounder what kind of hard drive system will need to be used with 16 tuners or more. I can imagine multiple hard drives in raid or maybe SSD's would need to be used eventually with 16 HD recordings going. At work we see a lot of the surveillance DVRs with failed hard drives because the manufactues don't use surveillance class drives designed to be written to 24/7.
 
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