BREAKING NEWS: FCC Approves Next-Gen TV for OTA Broadcasting

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Antenna is built into the case. Remember when Cell Phones use to have these big antennas you had to pull out?
Do you remember what frequencies cell phones were operating at when they had those little antennas? The antennas disappeared in part because the wavelength got shorter, not because their figured out a way around it (although fractal antennas helped).

The TV bands are much, much longer wavelength than 800MHz cell and unlike cell service, one broadcast tower is pretty much all you have access to.
 
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Anybody know yet what the range of 3.0 is?
There needs to be some significant real-world testing before that's authoritatively known. The reason I say that is that most of the experience is based on how things have gone in South Korea which is absolutely not representative of anywhere around here. The land area of South Korea is a bit bigger than that of Indiana and they have only two national networks and about ten regional networks.

I would also point out that the South Korean tuners use a different audio standard than the US will use (as is allowed by the ATSC 3.0 standard) so it probably isn't just a matter of re-routing some factory shipments and the article seems to be suggesting.
 
Im no old timer buy I remember when everything changed to digital. The government gave out discount cards for 10 dollars so people could by a converter. Now those converters are 10 dollars.
It forced so many people that could no longer get analog channels to go to cable or satellite.

As more and more people go to OTA and internet based feeds this seems to be a grab, like analog to digital. Kills local stations that can't convert.
 
Im no old timer buy I remember when everything changed to digital. The government gave out discount cards for 10 dollars so people could by a converter. Now those converters are 10 dollars.
The coupon program was $50. Nobody would want those boxes today as they were limited to composite and NTSC outputs.

Coupon-eligible converter box - Wikipedia
 
Has any FTA receiver company hinted at coming out with ATSC 3.0 in their receivers? I'm holding out for one.
ATSC 3.0 is likely years away so missing out on everything in the interim in the hopes that the new standard catches on seems like a waste.

While the stations are claiming they'll be up and running with copies of programming we're getting now in three years, I would expect that DTV will be with us for quite a while yet.

If ATSC 3.0 gets to the point of being mandated, everything changes (and it changes on a pretty gradual time scale). If it doesn't, it has a high probability of not going anywhere. Certainly not something to hang your future on at this point.
 
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Anybody want to venture a guess as to when ATSC 3 tuners will appear in mainstream TVs or DVRs?

I’d hazard maybe a trickle, most likely STBs, late 2018. And only because one or two ATSC 3 towers will be in operation then.

I’d SWAG 2020 for the first popular TV brand. Maybe.

Other guesses, and why?
 
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Anybody want to venture a guess as to when ATSC 3 tuners will appear in mainstream TVs or DVRs?

I’d hazard maybe a trickle, most likely STBs, late 2018. And only because one or two ATSC 3 towers will be in operation then.

I’d SWAG 2020 for the first popular TV brand. Maybe.

They are already available from LG in South Korea. Now their ATSC 3.0 is said to be slightly different, but I'd bet they could engineer that change for our needed tuners very quickly if they so choose. But, there's little reason to come out with tuners for us before end of 2018. The conversion from this last spectrum sale doesn't even start until then. I'd also think they have to install new towers, antennas, and certainly new transmitters. All costly, and all subject to license requirements, so will take time.
 
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They are already available from LG in South Korea. Now their ATSC 3.0 is said to be slightly different, but I'd bet they could engineer that change for our needed tuners very quickly if they so choose. But, there's little reason to come out with tuners for us before end of 2018. The conversion from this last spectrum sale doesn't even start until then. I'd also think they have to install new towers, antennas, and certainly new transmitters. All costly, and all subject to license requirements, so will take time.

I think the plan is to do sharing on one tower in ATSC 1.0 and then rebuild out the tower that was taken out of service. I really would like to see how far this goes. I'm in Tucson and can get Phoenix stuff on a good day. I would like to see how far this travels, and would be ecstatic to get a USB tuner to try out once the signals are up in testing.
 
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Sound isn't a big deal, like it used to be, the chipset can do both. Much like a region setting on DVDs, it can be updated via software.
You speak as if these chipsets are everywhere and examples are plentiful.

As for Dolby AC-4, it appears that support is limited to some 2017 model year AVRs. I don't recall having seen any sound bars that support AC-4 yet.
 
They are already available from LG in South Korea. Now their ATSC 3.0 is said to be slightly different, but I'd bet they could engineer that change for our needed tuners very quickly if they so choose.
The difference is that the US will use Dolby AC-4 and the rest of the free world (except Canada and US possessions) will use MPEG-H audio.

Licensing suggests that the chipsets won't have multiple standards as the licensing for MPEG-H is complicated all by itself.
 
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I think the plan is to do sharing on one tower in ATSC 1.0 and then rebuild out the tower that was taken out of service.
I've heard this rationalization over and over and I still don't buy it. It isn't as if five or six or 20 stations can put their HD feeds on one DTV channel. The other way works fine for five or six HD feeds but that's not what they're promising.
 
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I've heard this rationalization over and over and I still don't buy it. It isn't as if five or six or 20 stations can put their HD feeds on one DTV channel. The other way works fine for five or six HD feeds but that's not what they're promising.

Who says they are going to do HD? They may do anamorphic 16:9 SD. Harmonic is telling broadcasters they can get 4 720P HD channels in the 19.2 Mbps space now with their new encoders using statmuxing on secondary content. Mind you that sports content would look like crap, so this may end up getting bumped down to 3 720P channels. My bet is this gets spread over 3 towers. While the other towers are built out. Once ATSC 1.0 sunsets we will see everyone transition to their own tower.
 

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