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The Fat Man said:
We have had NESN for decades. Owned jointly by the Red Sox and Bruins. It has to be one of the earliest team owned RSNs.
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Exactly my point !

Pretty soon all the teams are going to start their own Tv networks so they can keep 100% of the revenue.

Not saying this in any way to be negative about Dish, but when that happens it will likely be the end of any regional sports on Dish.
 
Claude Greiner said:
Exactly my point !

Pretty soon all the teams are going to start their own Tv networks so they can keep 100% of the revenue.

Not saying this in any way to be negative about Dish, but when that happens it will likely be the end of any regional sports on Dish.
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Nope. Maybe it would happen in a few more of the major markets, but not most or all.
 
Speaking of the RSNs, it has been a puzzle to me why we can only see FSKC when the Royals play and otherwise it is blacked out. It was this way on DirecTV as well. Meanwhile, we get FSMW until a St. Louis team plays and then it is blacked out. I realize it has to do with contracts, blah, blah, but it makes this layman's head hurt. I'd be happy with FSKC full time but I guess that isn't an option even though I'm less than 150 airline miles from Kansas City and quite a lot further from St. Louis.
 
Nate Bargmann said:
Speaking of the RSNs, it has been a puzzle to me why we can only see FSKC when the Royals play and otherwise it is blacked out. It was this way on DirecTV as well. Meanwhile, we get FSMW until a St. Louis team plays and then it is blacked out. I realize it has to do with contracts, blah, blah, but it makes this layman's head hurt. I'd be happy with FSKC full time but I guess that isn't an option even though I'm less than 150 airline miles from Kansas City and quite a lot further from St. Louis.
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FSKC = FSMW. They're the same channel as far as I know. The only difference is between the Cardinals and Royals broadcasts. Or at least that's the way it used to be.
 
Nate Bargmann said:
Speaking of the RSNs, it has been a puzzle to me why we can only see FSKC when the Royals play and otherwise it is blacked out.
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First, FSKC is a subfeed of FWMW; there is also a FS part-time Indiana subfeed as well. The other sports on KSKC are blacked out for you, because you are OUTSIDE what is considered the local market of those said sports teams. It's no different than here, that while we also get a "FSMW" feed, we do NOT get to see sports like the Royals, Pacers, etc...because they are outside OUR local market. (there is also a FSMW overflow channel, that is used for live sports scheduling conflicts with any/all of the FSMW feeds/subfeeds; Comcast cable here actually keeps the overflow channel up on a dedicated channel # 24/7 - I also have relatives in KS on Cox cable, & they too have a dedicated FWMW overflow channel)
 
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dishrich said:
First, FSKC is only a part-time subfeed of FWMW; there is also a FS part-time Indiana subfeed as well. The other sports on KSKC are blacked out, because you are OUTSIDE what is considered the local market of those said sports teams. It's NO different that we here than while we also get a "FSMW" feed, we do NOT get to see sports like the Royals, Pacers, etc...because they are outside OUR local market. (there is also a FSMW overflow channel, that is used for live sports scheduling conflicts with any/all of the FSMW feeds/subfeeds)
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Correct. Until a few years ago, Royals broadcasts were aired on FSMW. Then they spun off the part time subchannel and called it FSKC.
 
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Claude Greiner said:
Exactly my point !

Pretty soon all the teams are going to start their own Tv networks so they can keep 100% of the revenue.

Not saying this in any way to be negative about Dish, but when that happens it will likely be the end of any regional sports on Dish.
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Actually the tend id the other way. as an example ythe yankees are in the process of unloading the YES network.
 
dare2be said:
Nope. Maybe it would happen in a few more of the major markets, but not most or all.
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I live in one of the smallest sports markets in the country, and we had a team owned RSN 20+ years ago and we have a partial one now. In Buffalo, Adelphia launched Empire Sports Network in the early 90s to carry Sabres games, in ’97 the owner of Adelphia bought out the Sabres from the founders. And then Adelphia went bankrupt, Empire Sports Network ceased operations and John Rigas went to jail.

The Sabres were moved to MSG and subfeed MSG-B/MSG Zone 3 was created for those of us in Western NY. It was the red headed stepchild of the MSG family, the only Buffalo-centric programming was Sabres Pre-game, Sabres post-game and the game itself. A few years ago, Terry Pegula, the new owner of the Bills, Sabres and all of our area smaller teams teamed up with MSG to create MSG Western New York. It’s a partnership between MSG Network and Pegula Sports & Entertainment, the holding company that owns 5 or 6 teams now to show more local and regional content then we ever had before with filler programming provided by MSG.

If it can happen in Buffalo, it can happen anywhere.
 
Claude Greiner said:
I think Sinclair is in for a rude awakening as these sports teams form their own sports network.

The Yankees did it and the Tigers, Pistons and Red Wings are doing it in Detroit soon.
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Sinclair just bought a portion of YES, when the Yankees bought back the network from Disney.
The issue is how long these contracts go. Fox Sports just re-upped a lot of these deals.
 
Geronimo said:
Actually the tend id the other way. as an example ythe yankees are in the process of unloading the YES network.
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The Yankees got the 80% back that they sold to Fox. Well in partnership with Amazon and Sinclair, but the Yankees are majority owner again.
 
Don in CT said:
Sinclair just bought a portion of YES, when the Yankees bought back the network from Disney.
The issue is how long these contracts go. Fox Sports just re-upped a lot of these deals.
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Exactly. Doing a quick search, Fox Sports Arizona signed a 20 year contract to cover the Diamondback in 2015; Fox Sports Midwest signed a 22 year deal in 2015. So those two are locked down until at least the mid to late 2030's. So Sinclair should be good with at least some of these RSN's for the long term.
 
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zippyfrog said:
Exactly. Doing a quick search, Fox Sports Arizona signed a 20 year contract to cover the Diamondback in 2015; Fox Sports Midwest signed a 22 year deal in 2015. So those two are locked down until at least the mid to late 2030's. So Sinclair should be good with at least some of these RSN's for the long term.
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Unless there are out clauses if the network sells. I do wonder if some of these teams will try to buy in to part ownership of these networks.,
 

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