Locals connect or reconnect fee?

Directv was not around then either, however their parent company, AT&T was. It does not matter that the parent company was around then, they had completely different services at that time.
 
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Tuner sensitivity is a big player. Neighbor runs straight into a Sony flat screen. The DISH OTA adapter is much less sensitive it seems and probably why the thing runs so hot - electricity is being converted into heat.
I think that's a big difference. Have you tried running your OTA line straight to your TV and see what kind of signals you get?

BTW, OTA signals ARE compressed, even if there's only one program in a channel.
 
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But its parent company, EchoStar, was.

Exactly and that's who I bought from, first small dish receiver that I know of. No need to get into a pissin' contest with some of the "pros" here.

EchoStar was originally formed in 1980 by its chairman Charles Ergen as a distributor of C band TV systems. In 1987, it applied for a direct broadcast satellite (DBS) license with the Federal Communications Commission and was granted access to orbital slot 119° west longitude in 1992.

EchoStar - Wikipedia
 
Exactly and that's who I bought from, first small dish receiver that I know of. No need to get into a pissin' contest with some of the "pros" here.

EchoStar was originally formed in 1980 by its chairman Charles Ergen as a distributor of C band TV systems. In 1987, it applied for a direct broadcast satellite (DBS) license with the Federal Communications Commission and was granted access to orbital slot 119° west longitude in 1992.

EchoStar - Wikipedia

There's no pissing about it. It's either right or wrong. In your first post you said you were with DISH since the 80's. That's simply not possible. This is what's right:

Dish Network officially began operations on March 4, 1996, as a service of EchoStar. EchoStar, a precursor to Dish Network, was formed in 1980 by its chairman and chief executive officer, Charlie Ergen along with colleagues Candy Ergen and Jim Defranco, as a distributor of C-band satellite television systems.
 
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There's no pissing about it. It's either right or wrong. In your first post you said you were with DISH since the 80's. That's simply not possible. This is what's right:

Dish Network officially began operations on March 4, 1996, as a service of EchoStar. EchoStar, a precursor to Dish Network, was formed in 1980 by its chairman and chief executive officer, Charlie Ergen along with colleagues Candy Ergen and Jim Defranco, as a distributor of C-band satellite television systems.

What does it matter? You're in the noise level nit picking some moot point that isn't even relevant to my topic. Since you have lots of time on your hands how about checking out my posts for typos Mr. "Lifetime Supporter". I'm sure you'll find some if you look hard enough. :clapping



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Charlie Ergen
Cantey Ergen
 
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What does it matter? You're in the noise level nit picking some moot point that isn't even relevant to my topic. Since you have lots of time on your hands how about checking out my posts for typos Mr. "Lifetime Supporter". I'm sure you'll find some if you look hard enough. :clapping



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Industry Satellite television[1]
Founded 1981; 38 years ago (Original EchoStar)
March 4, 1996; 23 years ago (Dish Network)
Founders Jim DeFranco
Charlie Ergen
Cantey Ergen
All of your points (direct and indirect) were answered above. The devil in this site is the details.
 
I think that's a big difference. Have you tried running your OTA line straight to your TV and see what kind of signals you get?

I have a home theater and am shooting a Sony 4K projector on a big screen. Aint about to take down a bedroom flat panel and move it into the stairwell where all my cable leads and electronics are located.

Murphy's Law - most signals have been at or near 100% for days. My conclusion - the DISH dual tuner is not as sensitive as other tuners.
 
What does it matter? You're in the noise level nit picking some moot point that isn't even relevant to my topic. Since you have lots of time on your hands how about checking out my posts for typos Mr. "Lifetime Supporter". I'm sure you'll find some if you look hard enough. :clapping



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Public
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Industry Satellite television[1]
Founded 1981; 38 years ago (Original EchoStar)
March 4, 1996; 23 years ago (Dish Network)
Founders Jim DeFranco
Charlie Ergen
Cantey Ergen

It's important to be accurate because facts actually matter. When you post BS you lose credibility which renders everything else you post to be questionable. It's that simple.

Your 'topic' isn't even worth commenting about because it's nothing but a bunch of whining and bitching because you're basically saying that you're too good for the rules to apply to you and you think that you should be to be treated like some special case.
 
What does it matter? You're in the noise level nit picking some moot point that isn't even relevant to my topic. Since you have lots of time on your hands how about checking out my posts for typos Mr. "Lifetime Supporter". I'm sure you'll find some if you look hard enough. :clapping



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Public
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Industry Satellite television[1]
Founded 1981; 38 years ago (Original EchoStar)
March 4, 1996; 23 years ago (Dish Network)
Founders Jim DeFranco
Charlie Ergen
Cantey Ergen

And one more thing: I'm proudly a Lifetime Supporter of this site. Anybody who comes here and enjoys the platform should at least become a Pub Member to support the site.
 
Murphy's Law - most signals have been at or near 100% for days. My conclusion - the DISH dual tuner is not as sensitive as other tuners.
First, I totally agree Dish OTA reception sucks when compared to receivers in TVs. But, if the signals have been near 100%, and you're not willing to test reception on another device (which I understand), how do you make the conclusion that the tuner is not as sensitive?
 
First, I totally agree Dish OTA reception sucks when compared to receivers in TVs. But, if the signals have been near 100%, and you're not willing to test reception on another device (which I understand), how do you make the conclusion that the tuner is not as sensitive?

OK, I'll bite - please see post #14 & 15, page 1.

end of thread.......
 
OK, I'll bite - please see post #14 & 15, page 1.

end of thread.......
Glad you get to determine when a thread is done. I'm trying to figure out your logic.
1) Your across the street neighbor gets more channels than you do. OK, that COULD point to the Dish tuner being weaker.
2) Your signal strength on the Dish system is close to 100%. If the tuner is weak, why are you getting near 100%?
3) You do know with digital, there is such as a thing as "too much" signal. If you're overloading the receiver it won't display the image.

Now, I totally feel the Dish system has a weaker tuner, because I have the same antenna feeding two ViP receivers and two TVs. The ViPs will fail OTA reception before the TVs do. Therefore the Dish receivers are weaker.
 
OK, I'll bite - please see post #14 & 15, page 1.

end of thread.......

Totally made me think of Tron

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