DirecTV Now to rebrand under AT&T TV family.

Not really ....
Streaming is catching up fast and then once the Internet pricing continues to go up, it will be right there with D* and people will go back to them.

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We already see that happening ...
Streaming prices have already gone up several times and Internet does yearly at least.

Yeah, you're right on that part. Streaming prices will continue to creep up, but then the prices of satellite TV will do so too (at least if you stick with the same package of channels rather than switching down to a smaller one). The part I just don't ever see happening is folks deciding to switch BACK to satellite TV after they've left it, even if satellite TV could get their pricing even with what one would pay for a roughly equivalent streaming content package. (And you can't really count the cost of internet access there, because Americans now rely on it for all sorts of stuff. It's basically the new electricity, can't do without it.)

Satellite TV (DTV + DISH total) is losing big numbers of subs every quarter. I don't think some amount of quarterly sub losses will ever stop from now until the point at which those services eventually shut down in the mid/late 2020s.
 
The losses may be bottoming out.

Don’t forget the service via sat and cable is simply better. Nothing like a Hopper and quickness of trick plays from streaming. Better, and long term, DVR storage.

The economics are not one sided to favor streaming.

I’m more concerned about content owners moving to providing such content exclusively thru their own system.


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The losses may be bottoming out.

Don’t forget the service via sat and cable is simply better. Nothing like a Hopper and quickness of trick plays from streaming. Better, and long term, DVR storage.

DISH's losses this past quarter improved to being merely bad, as opposed to horrifying, which is the kind of losses that DTV continues to report. Perhaps this marks a long-term stanching of the bleed-out at DISH but I expect the losses will only accelerate at DTV due to a combo of the existing trend plus the fact that AT&T themselves will soon rollout AT&T TV, a new preferred flagship cable TV service to which many of their current and prospective DTV subscribers will migrate (as AT&T wants them to do).

When looking at those leaving satellite TV (or any MVPD), some are completely ditching channel-based pay TV and going with on-demand streaming (Netflix, Hulu, Prime Video, HBO Now, etc.), perhaps complemented by free OTA TV. Others are moving to cable TV from the company they already use for broadband. And a few are going to vMVPDs such as YouTube TV and Hulu with Live TV. For those who choose vMVPDs, I don't think they're much concerned about splitting hairs over trick play. You can still FF and rewind your cloud DVR recordings and in some ways those vMVPDs are better: no tuner conflicts means you can record an unlimited number of simultaneous shows, and YouTube TV has smart auto-extend for sports based on Google's AI. There are trade-offs, to be sure, but when you're getting all the channels you care about for all the screens in your home for about half what you were paying on satellite TV, it's hard to be dissatisfied.
 
Satellite tv require contracts, installation and service calls...while streaming just requires you to sign up..and you can quit and change providers in 30 seconds or less...nobody wants the satellite albatross ( or cable) when it so easy to avoid
Yeah, you're right on that part. Streaming prices will continue to creep up, but then the prices of satellite TV will do so too (at least if you stick with the same package of channels rather than switching down to a smaller one). The part I just don't ever see happening is folks deciding to switch BACK to satellite TV after they've left it, even if satellite TV could get their pricing even with what one would pay for a roughly equivalent streaming content package. (And you can't really count the cost of internet access there, because Americans now rely on it for all sorts of stuff. It's basically the new electricity, can't do without it.)

Satellite TV (DTV + DISH total) is losing big numbers of subs every quarter. I don't think some amount of quarterly sub losses will ever stop from now until the point at which those services eventually shut down in the mid/late 2020s.

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Let’s see how long it only costs half, and how long it stays month to month. I wouldn’t be surprised to see one month free, or a one month subscription, followed by a 1-2 year contract or cutoff.

Streamers may be cutting their own throats. If network X thinks they can force you to subscribe to them, as the only source of their content, how many such streamers will you subscribe to? Isn’t Disney headed that way?


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They will just die like cable and satellite are...too much free stuff out there
Let’s see how long it only costs half, and how long it stays month to month. I wouldn’t be surprised to see one month free, or a one month subscription, followed by a 1-2 year contract or cutoff.

Streamers may be cutting their own throats. If network X thinks they can force you to subscribe to them, as the only source of their content, how many such streamers will you subscribe to? Isn’t Disney headed that way?


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I do know my wife and I watch more and more YouTube.


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How long before it expires?


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Not enough time since we binge watch everything, You Tube TV is unlimited hours and does not expire for 9 months.
Not sure about Optimum. Can't find any info. I think it's infinite. AT&T TV expires after 90 days.

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The average customer doesn’t give 2 craps about the hopper, Genie, or X1 for that matter.

Today it’s all about who can provide internet and how much they are going to pay each month.

People “think” they are saving money going to streaming and some people do. However when you add in a $15.99 Netflix subscription, CBS all access and several other options, the price gets closer to a regular cable bill.

I have said it all alone, at the end of the day the internet service providers who also provide Tv will be the winners at the end of the day.

It will come down to DATA CAPS.

Internet service can’t remain cheap forever. What we will end up seeing is lower data caps associated with lower costs.

If you want to buy your streaming through Comcast, AT&T and spectrum and have their internet then that video doesn’t count towards your cap.

You want to use a 3rd party service, then your paying a premium on your data and likely going to a higher tier.

I can see the Netflix app on a tv providers box, but never will a live streaming alternative be available.

I’m really surprised the big providers like AT&T and Comcast have not made deals to cut out all the smaller wanna be streaming providers like you tube and play station.
 
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I still don’t understand why att has at&t tv and uverse tv. Aren’t they basically the same thing/service?

Aren't you jumping the gun a bit here? AT&T TV isn't even available yet, and you are complaining about duplicate services??

Most likely they will quit offering new installs of Uverse TV shortly after AT&T TV is available in all Uverse areas, but they will have to keep supporting existing Uverse TV customers for several years most likely.
 
Several? I’d say most will be gone in three years with a few left over getting their shutdown dates.


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The average customer doesn’t give 2 craps about the hopper, Genie, or X1 for that matter.

Today it’s all about who can provide internet and how much they are going to pay each month.

People “think” they are saving money going to streaming and some people do. However when you add in a $15.99 Netflix subscription, CBS all access and several other options, the price gets closer to a regular cable bill.

I have said it all alone, at the end of the day the internet service providers who also provide Tv will be the winners at the end of the day.

It will come down to DATA CAPS.

Internet service can’t remain cheap forever. What we will end up seeing is lower data caps associated with lower costs.

If you want to buy your streaming through Comcast, AT&T and spectrum and have their internet then that video doesn’t count towards your cap.

You want to use a 3rd party service, then your paying a premium on your data and likely going to a higher tier.

I can see the Netflix app on a tv providers box, but never will a live streaming alternative be available.

I’m really surprised the big providers like AT&T and Comcast have not made deals to cut out all the smaller wanna be streaming providers like you tube and play station.
Internet in the US is hardly cheap. We rank near the middle in cost and have just reached the top ten in speed.
 
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