DISH, DirecTV to merge?

I see no reason for Dish to buy unless it's extremely cheap. Do they really want to maintain a third arc? Cause they aren't going to do truck rolls on half their customers to swap hardware and repoint dishes.
 
I see no reason for Dish to buy unless it's extremely cheap. Do they really want to maintain a third arc? Cause they aren't going to do truck rolls on half their customers to swap hardware and repoint dishes.
Why not? We're doing it now anyway on almost every new connect I have
 
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Charlie Ergen-backed pay-TV operation DISH Network could be about to merge or consolidate with DirecTV.

Numerous reports suggest that with DirecTV haemorrhaging subscribers since its AT&T take-over, a disposal by AT&T with DISH Network being the favoured target.


DirecTV has lost 2.5 million subs over the past year. Not helping are allegations that AT&T has artificially inflated its subs numbers and is subject to a Class Action from complainants. AT&T’s CEO John Stephens has said that DirecTV could lose around 350,000 subs this current Q3.

While DISH might seem a logical partner, it is also clear that Charlie Ergen is in the process of moving his business into 5G wireless. Nevertheless, a merger makes logical sense and would provide serious economies of scale for the two satellite players if they came together.

What kind of horse sh*t article is this?

Article says absolutely nothing. [/quote]
 
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Oohhhhhh Claude Greiner ...................... Where are ya, big fella?lolz....

First of all I already got my ducks in a row with selling Comcast, Spectrum, Cox, Optimum,Orby, Viasat and a few others.

Besides doing exclusively commercial, I do not sell residential Directv anymore.

So if Dish some how took over Directv (Which I seriously doubt) it would be best they left me alone or I would have a real good reason to sue them this time.

What all these stupid articles fail to realize is that Charlie can’t do 5G and take over Directv.

It’s one or the other.

I don’t think Dish is capable of building their own 5G network, where as buying Directv may be the better choice for them.

But logically, 5G has far greater potential going into the future as everything is going towards an IP based platform for video anyways.

But in all honestly, my Commercial Directv business is squeaky clean. Upper management at Dish May hate me, but they got no reason to get rid of me. If they try, LAWSUIT! And believe me, nothing would please me more than hauling Charlie into court and doing a deposition.

Also I don’t ever thing I could see myself installing Kangaroo crap. Guess I’ll be converting all my accounts over to orby, just like I did to all my Dish accounts when I switched to Directv.
 
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First of all I already got my ducks in a row with selling Comcast, Spectrum, Cox, Optimum,Orby, Viasat and a few others.

Besides doing exclusively commercial, I do not sell residential Directv anymore.

So if Dish some how took over Directv (Which I seriously doubt) it would be best they left me alone or I would have a real good reason to sue them this time.

What all these stupid articles fail to realize is that Charlie can’t do 5G and take over Directv.

It’s one or the other.

I don’t think Dish is capable of building their own 5G network, where as buying Directv may be the better choice for them.

But logically, 5G has far greater potential going into the future as everything is going towards an IP based platform for video anyways.

But in all honestly, my Commercial Directv business is squeaky clean. Upper management at Dish May hate me, but they got no reason to get rid of me. If they try, LAWSUIT! And believe me, nothing would please me more than hauling Charlie into court and doing a deposition.

Also I don’t ever thing I could see myself installing Kangaroo crap. Guess I’ll be converting all my accounts over to orby, just like I did to all my Dish accounts when I switched to Directv.

You're upset. I get it. Perhaps you have a right to be. Ditch the emotions. Dish doesn't have any- you shouldn't either. These are business decisions, man.
 
First of all I already got my ducks in a row with selling Comcast, Spectrum, Cox, Optimum,Orby, Viasat and a few others.

Besides doing exclusively commercial, I do not sell residential Directv anymore.

So if Dish some how took over Directv (Which I seriously doubt) it would be best they left me alone or I would have a real good reason to sue them this time.

What all these stupid articles fail to realize is that Charlie can’t do 5G and take over Directv.

It’s one or the other.

I don’t think Dish is capable of building their own 5G network, where as buying Directv may be the better choice for them.

But logically, 5G has far greater potential going into the future as everything is going towards an IP based platform for video anyways.

But in all honestly, my Commercial Directv business is squeaky clean. Upper management at Dish May hate me, but they got no reason to get rid of me. If they try, LAWSUIT! And believe me, nothing would please me more than hauling Charlie into court and doing a deposition.

Also I don’t ever thing I could see myself installing Kangaroo crap. Guess I’ll be converting all my accounts over to orby, just like I did to all my Dish accounts when I switched to Directv.
Relax Einstein. Just like Orby, it was a joke....
 
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First of all I already got my ducks in a row with selling Comcast, Spectrum, Cox, Optimum,Orby, Viasat and a few others.

But in all honestly, my Commercial Directv business is squeaky clean. Upper management at Dish May hate me, but they got no reason to get rid of me. If they try, LAWSUIT! And believe me, nothing would please me more than hauling Charlie into court and doing a deposition..

Costs nothing to throw lawsuits around in Internet forums.
 
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I hope not. It would effectively eliminate all competition for millions of rural customers.
The alternative is DTV goes belly up. Think about it, who's going to buy DTV? Hello? Is that an echo? (sound of crickets). Go public with it? Who's going to want to buy stock in a spunoff DTV standalone, would you? What's left? Ring, ring, Hello Charlie, can we talk!? :inlive

The FCC has little concern for rural customers. It would be very easy for them to decide that OTA, cable, and streaming are viable competition and that satellite is simply another form of delivery thereby eliminating competitive concerns should they merge. Not saying it will happen but I would not be surprised if it did.
 
The alternative is DTV goes belly up. Think about it, who's going to buy DTV? Hello? Is that an echo? (sound of crickets). Go public with it? Who's going to want to buy stock in a spunoff DTV standalone, would you? What's left? Ring, ring, Hello Charlie, can we talk!? :inlive

The FCC has little concern for rural customers. It would be very easy for them to decide that OTA, cable, and streaming are viable competition and that satellite is simply another form of delivery thereby eliminating competitive concerns should they merge. Not saying it will happen but I would not be surprised if it did.
OTA, streaming and cable in rural areas?? On which planet?
 
The alternative is DTV goes belly up. Think about it, who's going to buy DTV? Hello? Is that an echo? (sound of crickets). Go public with it? Who's going to want to buy stock in a spunoff DTV standalone, would you? What's left? Ring, ring, Hello Charlie, can we talk!? :inlive

The FCC has little concern for rural customers. It would be very easy for them to decide that OTA, cable, and streaming are viable competition and that satellite is simply another form of delivery thereby eliminating competitive concerns should they merge. Not saying it will happen but I would not be surprised if it did.

DirecTV is very far from going 'belly up'. They are a cash cow and will be profitable for some time to come.
 
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doesnt directv have almost double the sub count of dish?

Yeah, something like that, but it is interesting how often the smaller company is the one doing the buying. I've been through two mergers where the smaller company ended up running the show after the fact: Bay-Nortel and McClatchy-KnightRidder. It usually speaks to how poorly the larger company's business is doing.
 
This is just Wall Street paper-pushers. Called "greenmail" some rich guy finds a company that is doing "A" and comes out with some empty suit types who say it should be doing "B", often exactly what is in this case, which is dumping solid but unspectacular lines to focus on hot, but risky and cyclical, ones. Ultimate goal for the rich guy is to get "greenmail" which is to have the company buy his stock at a premium.

DirecTV remains highly profitable. The economics of "cord-cutting" only make sense if you have, and want, high speed internet, millions don't. The number of people who "cord-cut" is probably leveling off. Plenty of people want a simple to understand, linear, TV with easy to understand interface and channel numbers.
 
DirecTV remains highly profitable. The economics of "cord-cutting" only make sense if you have, and want, high speed internet, millions don't.

And many more millions do, the last numbers reported is that 15% of the population do not get fast enough broadband, that means 85% do and that is what corporations care about, did that stop Disney from starting their new streaming service because 15% cannot get it, of course not because 85% can.


The number of people who "cord-cut" is probably leveling off.

Actually the numbers are accelerating, last quarter 1.5 million left traditional service, 3rd quarter is going to be worse because that will be for the summer when viewership is low.

The biggest thing about that 1.5 million is that only 200,000 (reported) went to a streaming live TV service, that means 1.3 million is getting by with Netflix, Hulu and/or OTA.

The biggest thing is the young people (under 30) are just not subscribing to Traditional Service, they are being raised by thinking You Tube and Netflix are just fine and that is behavior that will not change.


Plenty of people want a simple to understand, linear, TV with easy to understand interface and channel numbers.

I use the Roku and find that simple, my wife figured it out and if she can then anyone can, by the way we are over 50, definitely not young.




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Cord cutting/nevering does seem to be accelerating, according to the numbers the industry self-reports, and it is hitting AT&T especially hard lately because they just aren't competing for customers, probably because they are focused on paying down the insane debt load they have.
 
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