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    I don’t mind Dish Network making a profit, but not a killing.

    Oh, those local franchise agreements are still around. How does anyone think Verizon was able to enter the TV business so quickly? There is only one major locality in the DC metro area, Alexandria, that has yet to negotiate a TV franchise agreement with Verzion. More here.
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    If cable can do it.....

    Without having the time to look it up, I can only assume that the cable company is using a significantly-viewed channel to replace the network programming that is missing. Perfectly legal, and perfectly suited for either Dish Network or DirecTV to do the exact same thing, provided there is a...
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    TWC going to battle with Dish for low end?

    The problem here is that in order to pool the bargaining rights to the leagues, this law needed to be passed. It would need to be "undone" in order to allow the NFL to broadcast Friday night games nationally. Could it be changed? Sure. But the law must be changed before the NFL gives a...
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    TWC going to battle with Dish for low end?

    Not possible unless some laws are created or repealed... The reason most of us are used to the "High School Football Fridays", "College Football Saturdays" and "NFL Sundays" is because of the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961. The NFL will not be broadcasting a package of games on the NFL...
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    Dish HD vs Disney (DISH sort of won...)

    There are four carriage contracts, that we know of: 1) ESPN, which is for six SD and two HD ESPN channels 2) Disney, which is for three SD properties (Disney, Disney XD, Soapnet) 3) ABC Family, by itself as the channels is owned 50/50 between Disney and Saban Entertainment 4) ABC...
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    Dish's en banc request APPROVED!

    Why would the networks object? The law allowed for Dish Network to have the injunction dropped and allow them back into the distant business again, so it wouldn't matter if the networks had any objections, as Dish Network was going to get their license. The difference is this time, Dish...
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    DISH Network Reports Third Quarter 2010 Financial Results

    I am interested to know what exactly the resolution was, as something here doesn't add up.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Oy vey. Read this. Liberty Entertainment spun itself away from Liberty Media, and then merged with DirecTV. When the deal closed in November 2009, John Malone was left with 24 percent voting stock. That voting stock was later reduced to three percent and the three officers from Liberty...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    For the love of Pete. Read this. Snippets: EL SEGUNDO, Calif., Jun 16, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- DIRECTV (NASDAQ:DTV) today announced that it has consummated the previously announced transaction with Dr. John C. Malone to recapitalize the DIRECTV stock ownership held by Dr. Malone, his...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    How? John Malone is no longer on the Board of Directors, and no longer has any true voting power. The current Board of Directors basically ousted Liberty Media.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Again... DirecTV is a stand-alone company. Liberty Media may own about 3 percent of the stock, but no longer has any management decisions at DirecTV. As matter of fact, DirecTV owns the three FSN RSN's and GameShow Network, which they picked up from Liberty When Liberty Media merged the...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Start with an incorrect assumption, and it can only go downhill from there... NewsCorp, nor any of its subsidiaries, own any part of DirecTV. It could even be stated in reverse: Fox might have wanted to pick a fight with Dish Network a few years back, but could not as NewsCorp was under...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    I sense an oxymoron here...
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    Networks Refuse Google TV

    I thought we defeated communism?
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    From what I gather, because I cannot get the "select" package, it is not a generally available package. So that is not an apples to apples comparasion. Or maybe Missouri's AG read the agreement Dish Network made with the state, and simply figured that Dish Network is in violation of that agreement.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    The problem is that negotiating for tier placement is industry standard, so unless the belief is that Dish Network should receive another special deal...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    It still goes back to the question I had before... Dish Network is fuming because they stated they'd see a 50 percent increase. Most, including myself, take that to mean Fox wants FX and the FSN's in AT120, because other services have those channels in their lowest, basic tier. Dish...
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    When will CBS58 (WDJT) in Milwaukee be in HD on Dish?

    The station is owned by Weigel Broadcasting. They held up the CBS station in Milwaukee until they had their independent station in Chicago retransmitted back when local-into-local first started. So the easy way is to ask the staton manager about the negotiations.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    That's the problem. Yes, there is an agreement between Dish Network and the subscriber. There is also an agreement between Dish Network and the State of Missouri. That agreement is just as valid as the customer agreement.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    In the letter, the State AG mentions that Dish Network signed an agreement with the State of Missouri to "end deceptive business practices", and apparently the State AG feels Dish Network's actions regarding this "dispute" constitutes a deceptive practice.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Fine, I'm playing semantics. The point is unless you are subscribing to one of the premium movie packs, people are paying for a package of channels, not a single channel. So Dish Network has this AT120 and this AT120+, which is AT120 packaged with your local RSN. I have no idea how Dish...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    The entire point I've been getting at is if you don't like the way the business operates, don't give up your hard-earned money and then complain about it. These companies only care about their bottom line, and if you care about your own bottom line more, don't give them the power by continuing...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    "Programming is subject to change" It's right there in the agreement you signed with Dish Network. So it doesn't matter if a network does "change my and Dish's agreement"; the agreement you signed gives Dish Network the right to change programming in any package.
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    How much do you pay for The Movie Channel per month? Black out all of the private information and show me how much you pay for The Movie Channel. I offered to buy a Ferrari for a dollar. I also offered to become a Dish Network AT250 customer as long as I received the promo rate for the rest...
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    OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD

    Ahh, and let's say I agree with most of the points raised, but then add this caveat: If Fox feels that Dish Network is not a partner because Dish Network requires a special deal, then why would anyone expect Fox to come to an agreement regarding any of their programming? And the corollary...