ok its about too hot to be out playing with dish
finished up project monster ( multi feed from 7 1/2 ft'er ) final conclusion
got 91 pretty good signal (S2) got 99 (good signnal for S2) picked up 1 mux from 97 (nbc S2 i think at 44%) and got 105 (mostly around 40-60 % ) so not bad for playing...