10,000 dead?

[vurbano]

Of course, you're clueless again - no surprise, business as usual, vurbano is talking out his bottom parts.
First, my friend, it's the Governor who declared state of emergency.
Second, my friend, she did it on 26th, three days before Katrina made landfall on 29th.

Even Washington Post corrected its stupid misinformed article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html

What part of "its the mayors responsibility to evacuate 72 hours before the hurricane makes landfall" didnt you understand.? We are not talking about who or when a state of emergency was declared we are talking about the lack of forced evacuation. Two different issues. Once again your clueless

This time try reading the post (you'll look a little less like a troll if you actually respond to the right issue at hand):

The mayor had enough buses for at least 15,000 evacuees. No one needed to die like they did. The hundreds of poor who died could have been saved. Nagin also turned down an offer from Amtrak on Saturday to evacuate people. He had a plan and failed to execute it.

The plan correctly anticipates that approximately 100,000 residents would be unable or unwilling to leave. Therefore, as soon as a hurricane reaches Category 3 intensity, it is the MAYOR's exclusive responsibility to implement a forced evacuation no later than 72 hours in advance of landfall - well before any possible communications disruption. The plan states that all public transportation systems (buses, etc.) are to be used, and are to be assisted by city police. Instead, Mayor Nagin did nothing. The buses sit neatly parked and idle, and the people were left to fend for themselves, and die.

And for your information, the mayor did not declare a mandatory evacuation until Sunday. If anyone here has lips pasted to their ass its you.

Nowhere does my post say anything about who declared a state of an emergency or when!!

YOUR POST, IF ANYTHING PROVES THAT THE MAYOR HAD ADEQUATE TIME I.E. 72 HOURS AND DID NOTHING!!!

 

[BlackHitachi]

Yep, we're all pickup driving rednecks and hicks.

Thank God the urban liberal intellectuals and socialist Europeans are here to enlighten us.


NightRyder

WHOA!! Why do we always have to label people?? Urban liberal's against the rednecked hicks??

I am Black i have let that be know.. From a very small town in Texas. We love hunting and fishing more then a sport i eat the food. So what does that make me? a Urban Hick.. LOL I can't stand labels is my point. Honestly i have found myself agreeing with Vurbano alot on this post and other. I also have been shocked by some of the stuff he says. I honestly do not think he is a Racist.. That being said he does not like Liberal's..(whatever that means..) I was upset about the Black comment. The reason being it was a generalization. Hell i don't like all the Blacks in my family let alone in his neck of the woods.. I know live in Oregon and can tell you the 1% loans he is talking about whites get it here but i did not come out and say it like that.. Also i should not have picked at Vurbano the way i did about the possibility of having African blood in him. ("I do not like BLACK'S who are not proud of the crap we have and are going through and not proud to be BLACK!!!") I also have family that live in Louisiana they feel alot different then Vurbano does about the president and the Mayor of N.O. My family is a mixture there so they are not all Black. On a side note i did not like the Europeans attacking my American forum brother. Thats the one true weakness of this country we are divides to many labels.

 

[vurbano]

There was no generalization about "blacks" in my comment. It was specific to one government program here in one area of the city.

 

[BlackHitachi]

There was no generalization about "blacks" in my comment. It was specific to one government program here in one area of the city.

What about the Liberal's?? The idiots that stayed there?? I know why from across the country.

 

[vurbano]

What about the Liberal's?? The idiots that stayed there?? I know why from across the country.

What about the liberals? The people that stayed there were idiots? You know why what? Do you always try and pick fights everytime someone proves you wrong?

 

[BlackHitachi]

What about the liberals? The people that stayed there were idiots? You know why what? Do you always try and pick fights everytime someone proves you wrong?

Oh my gosh Not all of the people that stayed there are idiots!!! Remember its not election time mayor nagin.. You really should get off your pedestal in Va . You are not in N.O. You do not know why some people could not get out.. No not trying to pick a fight with you this is the internet. When people do not agree with you that is a fight?

 

[vurbano]

Oh my gosh Not all of the people that stayed there are idiots!!! Remember its not election time mayor nagin.. You really should get off your pedestal in Va . You are not in N.O. You do not know why some people could not get out.. No not trying to pick a fight with you this is the internet. When people do not agree with you that is a fight?

My post didnt say they were. Certainly you know what this "?" means. I merely repeated your rant because I didnt know wtf you were crying about. As far as the people that were left there I dont know how much clearer I can be. They are there because they were poor and couldnt get a ride out before the storm. They expected the murderer Nagin to act competently and follow his own written plan. The plan that predicted there would be a large amount that he would have to evacuate. Instead he chose not to act and abandoned them. BTW I have relatives in Alabama and Florida that was hit hard as well since you previously brought it up. But keep up the attack from your little soap box.

 

[NightRyder]

WHOA!! Why do we always have to label people?? Urban liberal's against the rednecked hicks??

I am Black i have let that be know.. From a very small town in Texas. We love hunting and fishing more then a sport i eat the food. So what does that make me? a Urban Hick.. LOL I can't stand labels is my point. Honestly i have found myself agreeing with Vurbano alot on this post and other. I also have been shocked by some of the stuff he says. I honestly do not think he is a Racist.. That being said he does not like Liberal's..(whatever that means..) I was upset about the Black comment. The reason being it was a generalization. Hell i don't like all the Blacks in my family let alone in his neck of the woods.. I know live in Oregon and can tell you the 1% loans he is talking about whites get it here but i did not come out and say it like that.. Also i should not have picked at Vurbano the way i did about the possibility of having African blood in him. ("I do not like BLACK'S who are not proud of the crap we have and are going through and not proud to be BLACK!!!") I also have family that live in Louisiana they feel alot different then Vurbano does about the president and the Mayor of N.O. My family is a mixture there so they are not all Black. On a side note i did not like the Europeans attacking my American forum brother. Thats the one true weakness of this country we are divides to many labels.

Sorry BH : , my comment was just a tongue in cheek response to the German's "redneck" remark.

Labels don't bother me. I grew up in a small rural logging community east of Salem. I have heard the "redneck, hick, inbred, hillbilly" remarks all my life from the valley residents. To me they're just words, I grew up during a time when we all weren't so afraid of them, now everyone automatically takes any remark in the worst possible context.

"Urban hick"? That might be a pretty good description of Medford, J/K.


NightRyder

 

[Michael-Berlin]

I grew up in a small rural logging community east of Salem. I have heard the "redneck, hick, inbred, hillbilly" remarks all my life from the valley residents.

I grew up in the eastern part of Germany and I also have heard words about us ... e.g. Ossis" (Easterns)

but "Hillbillies" is also a good word
I remember to "The Beverly Hillbillies" ... a very nice movie

 

[vurbano]

I grew up in the eastern part of Germany and I also have heard words about us ... e.g. Ossis" (Easterns)

but "Hillbillies" is also a good word
I remember to "The Beverly Hillbillies" ... a very nice movie

Its a put down here.

 

[BlackHitachi]

Sorry BH : , my comment was just a tongue in cheek response to the German's "redneck" remark.

Labels don't bother me. I grew up in a small rural logging community east of Salem. I have heard the "redneck, hick, inbred, hillbilly" remarks all my life from the valley residents. To me they're just words, I grew up during a time when we all weren't so afraid of them, now everyone automatically takes any remark in the worst possible context.

"Urban hick"? That might be a pretty good description of Medford, J/K.


NightRyder

Yea medford is getting to dang big fast!! I am going to have to move out farther.. LOL LOL but you are right Urban Hicks sum it up!!

 

[BlackHitachi]

BTW I have relatives in Alabama and Florida that was hit hard as well since you previously brought it up. But keep up the attack from your little soap box.

Well I hope your relatives still have there houses and cars that would suck to be flooded out lose everything. My attack once again i am in my BIG BLACK computer chair not a soap box.. What are you saying if you ain't with me your against me?? Once again we will never agree on every issue. I actually agree with you on some and not on others. Attack from my soap box?? To all the other poster reading this i am sorry i have even had to put you through posting back and forth. I just thought grown men could have a difference of opinion. I guess not since i am a Liberal Jesse Jackson clone that have idiot family member who did not want to leave there homes and shop in L.A. I also have some more in Texas. I am not as worried about them because i know dubya will take good care of them. No rants or ATTACKS from the left side just telling it like it is in my CHAIR/box.

 

[NightRyder]

Yea medford is getting to dang big fast!! I am going to have to move out farther.

LOL!...So I hear. It's been a several years since I've been down that way, but my Daughter's fiancee' works for a cement contractor out of Eugene, he said the amount of construction going on in your neck of the woods is amazing.

After 10 + years of economic depression my area is finally seeing some new housing starts. I imagine we'll eventually end up as a bedroom community for Salem. Sigh....


NightRyder

 

[vurbano]

Attack from my soap box?? To all the other poster reading this i am sorry i have even had to put you through posting back and forth. I just thought grown men could have a difference of opinion.

I think grown men can.

Are you sure she was a full Seminole? The reason i ask that tribe mixed with Blacks they welcomed them into the tribe. I would hate to think you have some AFRICAN in you!!

When the child in them doesnt come out

 

[BlackHitachi]

I think grown men can.

When the child in them doesnt come out

But not for the homeowners that stayed and died or are trapped in their roofs

As for the new mercedes, It helps if you are a single black mother. They build a new house in a poor neighborhood in the name of urban redevelopment, give it to you at about 1% interest, no qualifying, nothing down. Your live in BF then buys the car

AGREED!!