129 Sat

[yellowcanary73]

They finally came back after dark and could only get at best 55 to 60 on the 129 He told me that as long as its above 50 it will be OK even when cloudy or raining.They are coming back when the DP44 switch comes in should I try to get them to get a little better signal.I have no problem with line of site.

Thanks

 

[FantasyChannel]

He told me that as long as its above 50 it will be OK even when cloudy or raining.

B.S.

 

[HDTVFanAtic]

50 isn't even realiable. With the new STBs, you will be getting lockups galore whenever there is an error - and there will be plenty of them.

 

[Stargazer]

If it's 50 when its clear it will be lost easily during a storm.

 

[yellowcanary73]

That is what I thought they should be back out in a couple days to install the DP44 switch I will make them adjust it again I was thinking in the 80's.I have really perfect line of site and this was a DN installer.

Thanks again

 

[HokieEngineer]

I have found that if you peak it on 119, 129 comes in pretty weak. I nudged my d1000 a tad after peaking on 119 to boost up the 129 signal. I had about 55 on TP 4, now its up to 70. My 110 and 119 are down a little, but still about 90. They were above 100 before I adjusted.

Tell your installer to adjust the dish to increase the 129 signal level. BTW even with my adjustments, I could only max out around 75 on some TPs.

 

[downriver]

Canary where are you located?

 

[dishman007]

129

sounds like skew is off

 

[yellowcanary73]

I live north of Dallas Texas in McKinney excellent line of site was getting sat 119=120,sat 110=117 then they installed the dish 1000 getting sat 119=92,sat 110=85,sat 129 the best has been 60 today barely 50.
The installer probably only spent about 4 or 5 minutes searching for the signal.

Thanks

 

[mdonnelly]

You're not that far South of me. I get ~80 on 129/TP11, but ~60 on TP8, as I remember. The signal strength per transponder varies quite a bit on E5.

 

[dishcomm]

I have found that if you peak it on 119, 129 comes in pretty weak. I nudged my d1000 a tad after peaking on 119 to boost up the 129 signal. I had about 55 on TP 4, now its up to 70. My 110 and 119 are down a little, but still about 90. They were above 100 before I adjusted.

Tell your installer to adjust the dish to increase the 129 signal level. BTW even with my adjustments, I could only max out around 75 on some TPs.

good point..I find myself haviong ot do the same here in NC..During the peaking procedure we were told to just peak the dish on the 119 and that was all...BS...If left that way, the 129 sigs wil be weak or non....I take a little sig away fromt the 119 and 110 and that brings up the 129 nicely.. I do this by isolating the 129 to my meter and adjsting from there...Usually I'm in the high 60 to about the mid 80's....
50 sigs would bne adequate if the location was very far from the geo center of the US..Places like the east or west coasts or the far northern tier.....

 

[ralfyguy]

My results after I moved my 1000 myself. This was my first time touching a Dish at all. Thanks to all the wonderful guys here, I've learned alot, which made it possible for me to have the guts to touch my dish. I moved it from the wall to a Unistrut conscruction, designed by myself. It is combined with the OTA antenna. I will post pictures tomorrow.

Here's my Signals:

Elevation from Chart for zip 74501: 42
Elevation after tweaking: 44

Skew from Chart for 74501: 119
Skew after tweaking: 116

Mast ABSOLUTELY plumb!

Sat 110 119 129
TP1 86 80 75
TP2 N/A 94 74
TP3 87 96 75
TP4 N/A 95 76
Tp5 84 95 79
TP6 83 N/A 83
TP7 83 N/A 78
TP8 81 93 71
TP9 84 N/A 86
TP10 85 96 82
TP11 86 99 72
TP12 91 97 84
TP13 81 98 77
TP14 89 94 72
Tp15 82 96 76
TP16 91 97 81
TP17 81 95 75
TP18 88 95 72
TP19 85 96 71
TP20 88 93 75
TP21 85 98 75
TP22 90 N/A N/A
TP23 89 N/A 71
TP24 92 N/A 81
TP25 88 N/A N/A
TP26 89 N/A N/A
Tp27 89 N/A 74
TP29 91 N/A N/A
TP30 N/A N/A 75
TP31 88 N/A 71


About every 10-15 minutes, 129 can fluctuate about +/- 5-7 pts, whereas 110/119 stay about the same. Dunno why.

What y'all think?

 

[dishcomm]

My results after I moved my 1000 myself. This was my first time touching a Dish at all. Thanks to all the wonderful guys here, I've learned alot, which made it possible for me to have the guts to touch my dish. I moved it from the wall to a Unistrut conscruction, designed by myself. It is combined with the OTA antenna. I will post pictures tomorrow.

Here's my Signals:

Elevation from Chart for zip 74501: 42
Elevation after tweaking: 44

Skew from Chart for 74501: 119
Skew after tweaking: 116

Mast ABSOLUTELY plumb!

Sat 110 119 129
TP1 86 80 75
TP2 N/A 94 74
TP3 87 96 75
TP4 N/A 95 76
Tp5 84 95 79
TP6 83 N/A 83
TP7 83 N/A 78
TP8 81 93 71
TP9 84 N/A 86
TP10 85 96 82
TP11 86 99 72
TP12 91 97 84
TP13 81 98 77
TP14 89 94 72
Tp15 82 96 76
TP16 91 97 81
TP17 81 95 75
TP18 88 95 72
TP19 85 96 71
TP20 88 93 75
TP21 85 98 75
TP22 90 N/A N/A
TP23 89 N/A 71
TP24 92 N/A 81
TP25 88 N/A N/A
TP26 89 N/A N/A
Tp27 89 N/A 74
TP29 91 N/A N/A
TP30 N/A N/A 75
TP31 88 N/A 71


About every 10-15 minutes, 129 can fluctuate about +/- 5-7 pts, whereas 110/119 stay about the same. Dunno why.

What y'all think?

129 is a fart in the wind...While I have not seen the sig strength bar for more than a few seconds while checking TSP's I have no doubt that you are stating the truth...
while not impossible the D-1000 is definitely more of a hassle to peak.

 

[Stargazer]

I would think that your 110 and 119 signals should be about 30% higher than they are but 129 looks about right. Did you try to increase 129 after peaking 119? This would cause a loss in 110 and 119. The only time the drop in signal would make a difference is during a storm.

 

[RandallA]

I think those are great signals for a D1000 and a 622 receiver. Ralfy, that is with your new 622 receiver right?

 

[ralfyguy]

I would think that your 110 and 119 signals should be about 30% higher than they are but 129 looks about right. Did you try to increase 129 after peaking 119? This would cause a loss in 110 and 119. The only time the drop in signal would make a difference is during a storm.

Yes, that's what I tried. I can get WAY over 100 at 119/110, but the 129 goes down to 50.

 

[ralfyguy]

I think those are great signals for a D1000 and a 622 receiver. Ralfy, that is with your new 622 receiver right?

Yes, I had a 625 before, but the 119/110 results on 500 where not alot better. And I got trees in my backyard.
Like this morning there's a thick cloud cover and 129 TP's are all in high 70's low to mid 80's. Last night in a clear sky they were lower, about 5-7 pts. That's BS. This satellite doesn't make sense...funny also that apparently the recommended pointing angles are no good. My pointing angles now are almost the same as for my 500 before.

 

[ralfyguy]

Ok, here's the pix of my first self install

 

[Stargazer]

I figured you was compensating for a loss of signal on 129 by increasing 129 and sacrificing 110 and 119 to do so. I saw some others do that on some other threads. This is how I tuned in the SuperDishes in the past. I peaked 119 then I would get some signal for 105 but had to peak it even if it dropped 110 and 119 some.

 

[ralfyguy]

Well, we had a heavy storm just an hour ago, and I compared and checked what goes first. Actually all three slots went down to about below 40 down to 35 and then lost them about the same time. I expected to see 129 channels to go first, but that wasn't the case. The OTA antenna hooked to my 622 paid out, because after I lost satellites, I just kept watching on OTA! They should have designed the LNBF array a little more different. Like angle the 129 a little better to the satellite dish, instead of making a symmetric W-adapter. By the way, how do you like my array as shown in the pictures?