Slice1900, Respectfully completely disagree with your views.
I can tell the difference easily.
I keep referencing the Winter Olympics (sourced from 8k HDR).
That 4k HDR was stunning. 1080P HDR would not look anywhere as good.
Of course you might find a studio setup down the road with cheap gear that woud effect picture quality.
And certainly down the road bit starved bitrates will make 4k look bad.
But even a 50" cheap 4K tv will easily let viewers see all that 4k detail that 1080P can't.
Unless you have bad eyes. I think most people could easily tell the difference in a A/B test.
As for everyone being played for fools by Fox with the NCAA football not really in 4k.
(always nice to lie to your public)...... But as for those games I've seen many posts at how bad some of the games looked.
I myself saw some of the bad looking games and it was obvious it wasn't 4k.
But even the best ones were pixelated in areas of action on slo-mo replays.
Real 4k / high bitrate would not look like that.
And the Olympics prove that out.
Even the Summer Olympics 4k the first 4k feed for viewers looked amazing.
And it was just 4k camera's if I remember right.
The native format they are using 444 or 422 is much better than a consumer compression H.265 4k camcorder.
But even h.265 high bitrate would probably still look quite good in slo-mo compared to what were now getting from Fox with pixelation and artifacts.
Yes, I'm aware ESPN and laters others used a 4k camera for zoom in shots.
But they probably had little 4k studio gear. Just enough to use for the one shot in the their HD mix.
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When was this Olympics that you saw so stunning and where at ?
How long have 4k set been out now ?
I'm talking High End ones for homes ...
Sounds like you have seen all this and think you know that it all looks bad ... however, you never saw the 1st week NFL production, but took peoples word.
Like MANY said the 1st week was BAD, however, the 2nd week most looked great and the issues were resolved ...
I prefer to give them credit for fixing and improving from that 1st week.
Like I said back then, its going to be a work in progress, it will get better each week.
Sounds like your an angry man ...
Had you not seen an article that said it wasn't 4k, you would have wrote it off as a bad night and improvements the next week.
These people don't owe you anything.
I was the first HD MLB game (Playoff game) on Fox many years ago, matter of fact I was on the phone with the local Chief Engineer when they flipped the switch to go Live HD.
It was stunning ....
The difference between SD and HD is much larger than HD to 4k
I asked you awhile back what TV you were viewing all your 4k on that you are so disappointed in, but haven't heard back.
