ABC Affiliates on Ku-Band (1998)

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+harshness I guess, it was mainly used for national news feeds (World News Tonight with Peter Jennings, Primetime Live, 20/20, World News Now, World News This Morning, Good Morning America, etc...) and international items that were being fed to their affiliates.
 

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I suspect that this is true of the other networks as well. Ku probably wasn't (and still isn't) the first choice for reliable communications.
 

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Also, speaking of the affiliate newscasts, I also forget to mention WVNY Plattsburgh/Burlington which had a 6PM newscast called "22 News Now", before relaunching its news operation in August 1999. This video goes to show it.

(Play at 6:43)
 

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Also, speaking of the affiliate newscasts, I also forget to mention WVNY Plattsburgh/Burlington which had a 6PM newscast called "22 News Now", before relaunching its news operation in August 1999.
I'm not sure what your point is here. My local CW, KRCW, has had a news broadcast for a few years now and it has never had a news operation. Until recently they would run an early version of the KGW (NBC affiliate) news but now they're running KOIN's (CBS) news programs. In both cases, the CW broadcast is kind of a "dress rehearsal" of the other station's news show.

There is no satellite feed involved. Before the Internet, this kind of stuff happened in my market via microwave (or in my college town, recorded from a translator).
 

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I'm not sure what your point is here. My local CW, KRCW, has had a news broadcast for a few years now and it has never had a news operation. Until recently they would run an early version of the KGW (NBC affiliate) news but now they're running KOIN's (CBS) news programs. In both cases, the CW broadcast is kind of a "dress rehearsal" of the other station's news show.

There is no satellite feed involved. Before the Internet, this kind of stuff happened in my market via microwave (or in my college town, recorded from a translator).
What my point is there, is that WVNY had a news outlet (22 News Now) before relaunching in August 1999 under a new name (ABC22 News), but they were always third behind WCAX (CBS) and WPTZ (NBC) prior to that. Sometimes a satellite feed or two might pop-up, since Ku is the feeding ground for newsfeeds.
 

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What shows?
What do you mean by shows? I was obviously referring to news feeds.

Your ongoing insistence is that Ku was used significantly for various purposes in conducting transmissions of local TV station and/or network content (of all kinds) and I think you've pretty much exhausted any hope of that being true.
 

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What do you mean by shows? I was obviously referring to news feeds.
I was referring to the last comment in which you noted that C-Band was the first choice for newsfeeds via satellite. Several newsfeeds might pop-up on C-Band (CBS Newspath used G4, before residing on G7, ABC NewsOne used T4, T5 (was previously on T3) & E2, FOX used T4 & T5) from time-to-time, but there were a lot more newsfeeds and backhauls on Ku-Band back then.
 
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I was referring to the last comment in which you noted that C-Band was the first choice for newsfeeds via satellite. Several newsfeeds might pop-up on C-Band (CBS Newspath used G4, before residing on G7, ABC NewsOne used T4, T5 (was previously on T3) & E2, FOX used T4 & T5) from time-to-time, but there were a lot more newsfeeds and backhauls on Ku-Band back then.
I submit that you've pretty much failed to show evidence of significant activity on Ku band from the networks or the network affiliates. You occasionally dump a bunch of details that more often than not suggest C-band traffic but how they support your claims is absent. Naming satellites that support both C and Ku bands (as most did by that point in history) isn't particularly definitive.

What kind of backhauls are you referring to? If it is the ones used by DISH or DIRECTV, that's not in any way the network's or affiliate's "usage".
 

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The backhauls I'm referring to are the newsfeeds and affiliate feeds from the network.
My understanding is that what your describing is substantially the opposite of a backhaul. Backhauls come from remote locations to the affiliate (or directly to the network) or from the affiliates to the network.
 

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ABC did use C-band for newsfeeds out to stations and some stations would use C-band to send stuff to ABC Newsone. ABC used network affiliate backhaul transponders to send newsfeeds during non-network programming. This happened weekdays starting after the 3pm ET soap finished. They dropped out of Leitch scrambling and used those transponders which was great use of resources rather than sitting on bars & tones. So just saying several newsfeeds might popup on c-band is not entirely true. C-band was used regularly by the networks to feed news material as well as network programming.
 
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C-band was used regularly by the networks to feed news material as well as network programming.
This thread is about ABC affiliates using Ku band for various purposes rather than the ABC mother ship using C-band. The topic starter made a highly questionable assertion that Ku band played a significant part in the affiliate station's daily production activities in 1998.
 
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This thread is about ABC affiliates using Ku band for various purposes rather than the ABC mother ship using C-band. The topic starter made a highly questionable assertion that Ku band played a significant part in the affiliate station's daily production activities in 1998.
I will make a note of that. Thanks for your clarification on the matter as it was extremely helpful.
 

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I also forget to mention that ABC also had newsfeeds on GSTAR 2 before the sat de-orbited in August 1997.
And again, I'll point out that your information doesn't apply to 1998 and does not support your thesis that the affiliates were routinely using Ku band to transmit their partial or whole works.
 

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