I am considering dropping my service from the AEP to HD 250. Other than the movie channels, are any other channels included in the AEP that are not in the HD 250? We've had netflix for several months now and hardley ever watch the movie channels.
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Nope just the movie channels. I dropped AEP down to 250 myself due to last years crazy equipment price increase.
Scott don't you think that the equipment increases for additional receivers are what cost DISH their subs these last 3 quarters?
Scott ,Do you think that DISH, after seeing three quarters in a row in Sub losses , would possibly reconsider the outrageous additional receiver fees? I can't see DISH being able to keep their stock prices up if the losses continue for another quarter. I mean what company has any long term viability with continuing churn and sub losses for over 3 or 4 quarters in a row?
NBA TV is in the AT200, AT250 and AEP, also in the Multi Sport package (so you can have AT120+ with the sport pack as well). I'm not sure if/when this did change
I came accross an article at Zacks Investment Research stating, "DISH NETWORK HAS THE BEST RELATIVE PERFORMANCE IN THE CABLE & SATELLITE INDUSTRY" This would seem to support the notion that losing subs isn't always a bad thing, especially if they are the lower paying ones or the ones who keep costing money and eroding profit from the subscription. As much as I despise the fee increases and the other things that keep pushing real subscription costs up for subscribers--like the silly $4 per month more for a 922--Dish has always been financially solid and perfumed well, especially with the paradox of losing subs, but increasing what subs are paying and gaining profit. Even with all the added fees, Dish, in my area, is still the least expensive option and has the greatest value, but not by very much anymore, only by a fair margin now.
LMAO.... When I proposed exactly what the Zacks article says, it was dismissed by some as being nothing more than speculation that was what Dish was doing.
And I agree 100% with your analysis. Dish in both my area in CT and FL is still overall the least expensive especially for what is included. But not by as much as in the past. Of course to be fair the exact configuration you have may make Direct a little less. In my experiences Cable is almost never less after your Promo ends. There are some trying to pass of Dish as one of the highest costs, they simply are not..
And I agree 100% with your analysis. Dish in both my area in CT and FL is still overall the least expensive especially for what is included. But not by as much as in the past. Of course to be fair the exact configuration you have may make Direct a little less. In my experiences Cable is almost never less after your Promo ends. There are some trying to pass of Dish as one of the highest costs, they simply are not..
The only problem with DISH continuing to make profits, is that they are doing so by charging more and more made up "just because we can" charge it fees on the remaining subs . THis pisses off more and more of those remaining subs and they too churn. There is a price line most subs will not pay over monthly and for many, DISH met that line a few price hikes and equipment fee increases ago. With the number of younger people who are not into traditional tv (cable/satellite) continuing to grow and cord cutting increasing daily, I don't see DISH remaining profitable LONG TERM. Yes short term they will continue to make profits but their stock prices will start to fall if the subs continue to drop every quarter. Negative word of mouth has destroyed lesser companies in the business sector and DISH is not immune to negative criticism.
I dropped to Dish 200 when the price hike and receiver fees came. I'm one more price increase away from seriously considering local cable. Biggest thing keeping me with dish is equipment. Cable doesn't have anything to compare for a reasonable price to have 4 independent viewable TV's all with DVR and able to record 6 different shows at the same time (in HD).
I don't even know how to respond to that. Dish is less in your own words, with better equipment, better technology, yet if they go up again you will seriously consider going to Cable, who is more expensive with worse equipment... and who will also go up.
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Don't get me wrong, the increase in equipment fees are the real sore spot with me too. However, Since Dish is still (depending on who is posting) either less than in many instances, about the same, or slightly more expensive than any of the other providers, wouldn't they all be in the same shoes as Dish? Aren't you saying Direct TV and the Cable companies are also charging "just because they can" fees if their prices end up around the same as Dish, or even higher? If you think Dish is charging too much, then you must think the other providers are too. (And perhaps they all are....but my point is I keep seeing Dish singled out, when they are not charging overall more than most anyone else) They are very friendly priced for what you get for entry level.
I might be more irritated by the equipment fees if Dish receivers were anything like the receivers my friends have from Charter. But then again, if they were like those, Dish may not have been able to go up on equipment fees......
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What it means is that if I look at what I had when I started with dish, over 12 years ago, I don't see the value increase for the price increase. I think they are charging more because they feel they can, and eventually they will price me out of the services. What that means is that if I'm going to cut out DVR's and channels to save money with Dish, I might as well just drop them completely and get Cable. That is the thing I don't believe Dish Understands. They are ever so slowly pricing themselves into becoming a commodity. Once they are a commodity it won't matter who you pick, the price is the same.
I don't mean to be rude but a DVR and satellite TV is a commodity any way you slice it.
If you had to cut back and the reason being to get to the lower prices of the competitors wouldn't it make sense to cut back with Dish as their equipment, packages, and value would still be greater?
If you had to cut back and the reason being to get to the lower prices of the competitors wouldn't it make sense to cut back with Dish as their equipment, packages, and value would still be greater?
