Article: Charter doubtful about the future of ATSC 3.0

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  1. Voyager6

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    Did anyone catch the proposed ATSC 3.0 broadcasts for 5 years from now? 2 UHD channels and additional SD channels on the same stream. How bit starved will those channels be?
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    Do I read the bottom right correctly? 11 SD channels via ATSC 1?

    That will look so bad it’ll drive folks to buy ATSC 3- or drop OTA. Which I suspect is the goal.


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    We already have that here on WROB/KCKS/KMJC- 12 SD channels.
     
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    I probably don't have to ask this but what's the quality like? :rolleyes:
     
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    To be honest, it's not too bad.
     
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    Wow, that's really surprising but I'm glad to hear it for your sake. :)
     
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    Most of the documentation I've read suggests that UHD will require a full RF channel. To suggest they can get two and a handful of others is likely marketing fiction.
     
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    Can’t be too bad if they’re trying to hawk Jewelry TV on it. But I doubt I’d watch it.


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    True, JTV is one of the subchannels. However there are some other "cable-like" channels that are OK, like Buzzr, Retro etc.
     
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    At least they broadcast the aspect ratio correctly. I cannot tell you how many subchannels I have seen that are broadcasting picture framed widescreen material.
     
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    I think it is worth pointing out that they appear to be proposing two UHD channels plus multiple SD channels on a single RF channel. Maybe we (or maybe just me) only reasoned that it wasn't possible to do while maintaining sufficient quality to prevent the picture from looking worse than HD. There is technology built into the standard that should insure that content doesn't have to be re-encoded to put in "bugs" (logos) but there's still the issue of how do you mux all that together without having to engage in adaptive encoding?

    Will there be any UHD content for them to broadcast?

    I'll ignore the proposition of a UHD Antenna TV because the idea makes my head hurt.

    Surely most will drop broadcast TV like a hot potato if all DTV broadcasts are smooshed to SD and they're not poised to upgrade.

    I'd also like to call out those who suggest that the tuner dongle is going to be $30 a pop. The current ATSC 3.0 USB tuner dongle is $1,000 and while someone (I think it was Sinclair) has offered up $1 million in subsidies, that won't go very far. The Gubmint was prepared to pour in over $1.5 billion into the DTV converter program.

    Some have suggested that the converter boxes will simultaneously support multiple TVs but I'm dubious about the infrastructure required to handle it.
     
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    Maybe those boxes WILL be $30




    per month.


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    The box that the adapter comes in is $30.
     
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    Is it packaging or will it be a casket?
     

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