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You do realize that if it went the way you want it to go that the channels that you only want to watch will most likely go up in cost. If some of the channels you want to keep are niche channels then they will likely go away or will be very expensive. Chances are you won't up saving as much as you think you will and you'll just pay more per channel than you are now.
The savings wouldn't be substantial, but you could save money and get all the channels you want. Dish could set up a basement rate. $30 straight up and build up from there.

What I'd like is to pay between a 120+ and 200, and get all of the channels I wanted. It would mean the excluding a number of channels, but I could prioritize as needed. The basement fee would slush money around to help pay for the channels in aggregate.
 
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Best thing that could happen for Scott would be blackout for a few days.

Satguys clicks (money in) would rocket upward.

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The savings wouldn't be substantial, but you could save money and get all the channels you want. Dish could set up a basement rate. $30 straight up and build up from there.

What I'd like is to pay between a 120+ and 200, and get all of the channels I wanted. It would mean the excluding a number of channels, but I could prioritize as needed. The basement fee would slush money around to help pay for the channels in aggregate.

I know that's what everyone wants to do but if everyone had the choice of the exact channels they wanted there would be a lot of channels that couldn't afford to be operated anymore unless they raised their rates really high.

A channel like the Documentary Channel probably does not get near as many viewers as TBS. TBS could afford it because the majority of people would keep that channel but I'll bet that most people would drop the Doc Channel in order to save some money.

Now, what if you're one of those fans of the Doc Channel? You either end up losing your channel or you have to pay a premium for it. That person feels they are getting screwed now. I really think you need to think about it from every customer's point of view since everyone has their favorite channels.
 

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Just looking at my current bill:

Im paying $125.49 (programming only, not hardware) to use approximately 43 channels. This counts what I record and that we watch when bored. Im paying for the Top 250 because 2 channels I want requires it.

This is where I dont think its fair for anyone to complain that they are paying for something they dont want... My total bill currently equals $152.99.
 

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My bill is similar to yours and right now I mostly just watch TBS, ESPN and NFL Network. I probably only need 25 channels but I love to have the option to watch anything I want and that's why I get the AT250.
 

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I was being generous and counted ALL the HD premium versions of HBO, Showtime, etc..., when realistically I only use the main channel from each to record original series.

But I agree, its nice to have the option to watch whatever you want.
 

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If ABC had not of moved Monday night NFL football to ESPN, I would not watch ESPN at all. If ESPN was ala cart, I would not pay extra to get a few football games, even if my favorite team was playing. It is not worth $5 per month, let alone $8 per month. v
 
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gadgtfreek

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If ABC had not of moved Monday night NFL football to ESPN, I would not watch ESPN at all. If ESPN was ala cart, I would not pay extra to get a few football games, even if my favorite team was playing. It is not worth $5 per month, let alone $8 per month. v

And its obvious to me what the reason was for moving it off ABC to ESPN.
 

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I know that's what everyone wants to do but if everyone had the choice of the exact channels they wanted there would be a lot of channels that couldn't afford to be operated anymore unless they raised their rates really high.

A channel like the Documentary Channel probably does not get near as many viewers as TBS. TBS could afford it because the majority of people would keep that channel but I'll bet that most people would drop the Doc Channel in order to save some money.

Now, what if you're one of those fans of the Doc Channel? You either end up losing your channel or you have to pay a premium for it. That person feels they are getting screwed now. I really think you need to think about it from every customer's point of view since everyone has their favorite channels.

But didn't the Doc Channel just switch over to news/talk and reruns of shows? That's what happens in the current model to a niche channel. Eventually they get normalized to look like everything else. And if you're a fan of documentaries, you lost your channel anyway.
 

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Just going on channels a carrier must have, DISH will "cave" some on this one imho if needed. They need the ESPN's (in HD) and they need at least some of the Disney channels. I am not convinced the cartoon channels have to be in HD, but I'm sure they will be. I also think ESPN classic will come back to the at least the top250 package. This all could be at the cost of some other channels if DISH feels they had to pay too much and are worried about how much they will need to raise rates.

It appears DISH has about as many subscribers they are going to get unless they do something different. If they could drop prices significantly that would do it, but they have one way for that to happen that I am aware if they could do it. Put sports in a separate package. For those who got the package cost would not go down (could go up) but for those who can do without the sports channels it could provide millions of new customers if DISH dropped by several dollars the package prices and added HD. (see below)

Since I don't see any agreements allowing that to happen till more than one carrier drops sports channels unless they agree to being separate, then I think DISH (and I have always thought this) needs to have every channel in HD that is available in HD. So getting Disney channels all back to HD goes along with that thinking.

Dish is in this to make as much money as possible, there will be no price drops.
 

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But didn't the Doc Channel just switch over to news/talk and reruns of shows? That's what happens in the current model to a niche channel. Eventually they get normalized to look like everything else. And if you're a fan of documentaries, you lost your channel anyway.

Eventually they may need to drop the least popular channels and let them figure out what to do. Maybe those channels can make a life online. Dish needs to get back to a package of the Top 60 channels.
 

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Yeah we really need Google Fiber to go nation wide that would really put a hurt on all the TV Providers along with their net services as well. I would be all over it if we got it here you just can't beat what they have to offer and would push all the Providers to do a better job.
 

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You do realize that if it went the way you want it to go that the channels that you only want to watch will most likely go up in cost. If some of the channels you want to keep are niche channels then they will likely go away or will be very expensive. Chances are you won't up saving as much as you think you will and you'll just pay more per channel than you are now.
thats an old way of thinking about things..Netflix,Amazon,Hulu etc... sell shows..MLBtv is alacart (on the internet)..HBO to go will eventually be alacart..consumers soon won't be buying channels..the will buy the "bandwidth" and just purchase the shows that interest them
 

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Nope it was cause NBC got the Sunday night game from ESPN thus forcing Disney to move Monday night game from ABC to ESPN.


That's not correct.Espn merged with ABC sports,taking over MNF,NBC was granted a Sunday night game after that.There was no Sunday night game prior to that.
 
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