AT&T Should sell DIRECTV to DISH

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  1. Juan

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    When did this thread change titles
     
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    Ha. Yeah, that's what these threads tend to do when grist for the original topic runs out. Although I did make the point that whether or not a deal between DISH and DTV takes place in the coming year is probably somewhat dependent on how the T-Mobile/Sprint deal shakes out and its implications for DISH.
     
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    In the coming year, I very much doubt. If there is a consolidation I see it as many years off after AT&T has converted as many customers as possible to IPTV. Heck, AT&T has just recently finally absorbed all the DirecTV customers, ordering and other computer systems into their main AT&T systems. It took years to do that, I can imagine how long it would take to separate it all out again.
     
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    Very true and it appears at this time DISH is closer to the cell deal. Doesn't mean it will happen but this appears to me to be as close as they have been.
     
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    They could sell the satellites and lease them back
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    And what would that accomplish?
     
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    They could dump the cost and employees of running the satellite system while still owning the customers( similar to the original dish and echostar split)... at the end of the day..att purchased the customers of directv..they dont really care about or want the satellite end of things
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    You are right on if you look at this post.

    So, why don’t they just announce what they plan to with DirecTV? - post regarding AT&T layoffs
     
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    Ok, dump all the employees and watch the back lash wehn subs call in for repairs and they send No One.
     
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    They will all be on internet (lol)...you misunderstood..dish and echostar split...echostar controls the satellites while dish controls the customers..no reason att couldnt do the same...satellite uplink is a different business from satellite delivery to customers...very easy to split
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    I think they will keep techs for internet and phone but if the streaming box breaks they will send a new one. However, that won’t happen until most of the legacy tv customers are on OTT.
     
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    They will have to keep the repair techs for Internet and the little phone left.
    They can be taught to repair the Sat equipment on site.
    They are already talking about bringing the D* techs over to the Internet side, basically merging the depts.
     
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    The same techs who install Fiber also install DirecTV in my area. I was under the impression they had already achieved that synergy a while back.
     
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    I'm wondering if satellite TV installation/service will even be an OPTION at homes that have AT&T Internet/Fiber installed. For customers who already have it, of course, they're going to keep serving them satellite TV (even if they may encourage them to switch to the new streaming TV platform).

    But let's assume both AT&T TV (the streaming service) and DTV satellite TV will offer new customers the same set of new channel packages, which I believe will be the case. Why would AT&T even give a customer on their home broadband network the option to take satellite TV, which is much more expensive to install and which AT&T may be hoping to sell off at some point in the next few years? At the very least, I don't think the AT&T website will offer the possibility to sign up for DTV satellite on an account that already has or is also signing up for AT&T Internet/Fiber. Maybe you'd be able to call in and specifically ask for satellite TV and tell them that's the only form of TV service you're willing to take from them and they would allow it. But I can't see any reason why AT&T would *want* you to do that.

    (As for Uverse TV, that will completely stop being sold to any new customers for any reason not long after AT&T TV is introduced, possibly even the same day it's introduced.)
     
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    That's a big "IF" there, whether or not they offer EXACTLY the same channels. There are other ways to equalize that cost. If the IP version doesn't have a contract, the two year contract on satellite they'll make back the install cost from the advanced receiver fee - $360 over that time easily covers the install cost and two years amortization on the Genie. Or they could simply eliminate the free install for people where there's AT&T fiber, or for everyone.
     
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    AT&T Needs to Kill DirecTV to Save It

    https://www.multichannel.com/blog/at-t-needs-to-kill-directv-to-save-it

    Researcher says migrating satellite customers to IPTV should be phone company’s main goal
    A new study by BIA Advisory Services puts into black and white what a lot of analysts have been saying for awhile: in order for AT&T to preserve its video distribution business, it first has to destroy it.
     
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    As for offering the same channel packages: can you give me a plausible explanation of why the new Plus and Max packages have been entered into the DTV satellite ordering system unless they're going to become the default (or only) choices for new subscribers soon? I've tried to think of other explanations but I can't really come up with any. As for whether or not those packages will be *exactly* the same between DTV and AT&T TV, it's certainly possible that there will be a handful of channels in the satellite versions of those packages for which AT&T doesn't yet have streaming rights: PBS stations; some local affiliates of ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox and The CW; plus maybe ION and WGN America. I doubt there will be anything beyond those. And we know PBS has been working toward getting their member stations included in streaming cable TV services for at least a year now. It wouldn't surprise me if AT&T TV is the first service to include them when it launches soon. As for whatever stray local affiliates of the big 5 nets it's still missing around the country, they'll be added in time.

    I agree that there's some logic in DTV doing away with free installs for satellite TV. If that's the source of a lot of the extra cost for that service over AT&T TV, just charge new satellite customers up-front for the install and then charge the same prices for the actual ongoing channel packages on both services. But they'd have a hard time doing that while DISH continues to give away "free" installation to new customers. The trend with both satellite operators has been to advertise monthly bundle pricing that includes programing plus HD DVR service/equipment costs all included, with installation costs spread out over time into the total amount paid over the first two years. I could be wrong but I don't think DTV will stray from that practice. Which is why I think you'll see them advertise monthly rates that are $20-30 more expensive than AT&T TV for the same channel packages.
     
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    You have to be "Special" to go to the Fiber side of things around here.
     
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    I sense an Anakin Skywalker metaphor here...
     

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