Comcast, Time Warner back Cablevision DVR service (1 Viewer)


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Apr 18, 2005
DeKalb County, AL
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Comcast Corp. and Time Warner Cable on Thursday threw their support behind fellow cable operator Cablevision's plan to offer a digital video recording service that can replace DVR boxes.

The proposed new service will allow cable TV subscribers to record programs on Cablevision Systems Corp.'s network servers, doing away with the need for digital video recorder boxes made by companies like
TiVo Inc. and Cisco Systems Inc.'s Scientific-Atlanta.

Cablevision said on Monday the service it called RS-DVR (remote-storage digital video recorder) would help cut costs, such as for installing and repairing DVR boxes.

"It's a great idea. I applaud it," Comcast Chief Operating Officer Stephen Burke said at the Bank of America Media, Telecommunications and Entertainment Conference.

He and John Martin, chief financial officer of Time Warner Inc.'s Time Warner Cable, told the conference the cable industry was watching Cablevision's trial service and would likely follow suit if it proved successful.

One uncertainty is reaction to Cablevision's service by programming networks, which have bristled at some of the cable industry's previous attempts to record shows on their systems before negotiating new broadcasting rights.

Cablevision argues nothing will be recorded on its network unless the viewer orders it from the remote control -- an important difference from other failed experiments.

Earlier controversies had centered on Time Warner Cable's aborted Maestro service, which had proposed to automatically store programs on its network so viewers could order up just about any show that had been previously broadcasted.

"Our lawyers say Cablevision is on very firm footing so long as it's fair use (by the customer)," said Comcast's Burke.

He said a network recording service would help cable companies compete against satellite TV operators such as DirecTV and EchoStar, which cannot cut the cost of the DVR box out of their pricing structure.

"If it happens, which I predict it will, I'm sure the rest of the industry will follow," Burke said.

Time Warner Cable's Martin agreed.

"If this proves legal, we have the ability to do so on our infrastructure," he said. "That's what's important and exciting so I'd say stay tuned on this one."

Time Warner began to test a service called "Start Over" in November that allows viewers who miss part of a live program to start from the beginning if the show is still in progress. Martin said Start Over was a network DVR concept that could be broadened out.

Cablevision said it plans to test the RS-DVR in its Long Island, New York, market for 60 days. It will require little more than a software download directly to existing cable set top boxes.

Cablevision said it is likely to introduce the service to its estimated 2.1 million digital cable subscribers later this year.


Supporting Founder
Supporting Founder
Oct 13, 2003
Denver, Co
Thanks for the Post.

This is very interesting... Here's what they Don't mention.

How much recording time?
Hi-Def Support?

I don't think Cable has the bandwidth to support Hi-Def video streaming (or VOD). Is anyone getting Hi-Def VOD?

If there's no Hi-Def, then I'm not interested.

So, they only record what the customer requests (so they can sneak in under customer Fair-Use). If they are smart, that can still store only 1 image on the server (they don't need 2 million copies of Grey's Anatomy).

Something else we might not like. The programmers could try and force them do disable FF/REW (depending on how well the fair-use argument holds up).

The programmers are really going to try and make $$$ off this. I see a court battle coming (man, I should have been a lawyer).


Supporting Founder
Supporting Founder
Jan 12, 2005
Yes there is hd vod the rs dvr svc is supposed to record upto 80hrs at this point


SatelliteGuys Master
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Apr 7, 2004
SatelliteGuystonfieldville, U.S.A.
Great, now the cable companies are going to track every detail of what we watch and how we watch it. What's next? Are they going to interject 3 second commercialettes everytime we hit the pause button?

Thanks...but no thanks!


SatelliteGuys Pro
Aug 19, 2004
riff - you think you're box spools up at midnight everynight and doesnt tell them what you're watching? :)


SatelliteGuys Pro
Dec 19, 2004
Here and Now
I'm able to attach a 300g SATA hard drive to my SA8300 from Cox, which in effect allows me to "archive" shows, some of which I've had on there for over a year... How long would I be able to keep a show with this new DVR service, assuming it will record HD? 80g is nothing unless you are only recording digital cable (not even analog). Then and only then will get 80 hours out of it. A good option possibly for light SD cable users. I assume the fees would be lower than the standard $9.95 dvr fee, but I'm sure you'll still need to pay rent on the digital cable box.

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