I live in a heavily wooded area with steep hills to the south. I have had Directv & Dish Network say I cannot get satellite. I was told I could buy a 30" Winegard Dish, install where I can get sighting and run 500 LF of RG-6 (single strand) to house and use a Directv Box. I will not have electric at dish location. I need help with a setup & parts list big time. I am not sure if this will even work. Please help HULU is all I can get and its getting old!!
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Well, if your destin to get it, you MIGHT be able to do it, but it will be expensive.
First, you'll need whatever length from the dish to the house ground block with RG11 cable, thats much heavier, even then, I don't know if it will make it sufficiently that distance ....
Depending on the dish you do end up with, you'll probably want to run 4 runs to the ground block from the dish, more expense, or you wont have enough for a DVR (you need one feed for each tuner to work correctly.
I doubt that a SWM will work at that distance, is why I suggested 4 runs ...
Thats just to start.
Thanks Jimbo, I have no experience and the only thing I get from the Dish/Direct installers is nothing over 100'. I even contacted all the local satellite co's in the area and no luck. If this were your house and believe me, I HAVE to have it what would be your parts list starting at the dish, and ending at the receiver? You never miss it until you can't get it (no cable tv in area) Thanks Rick
Want to do some tree work?
IF I understand your setting the hills to the south have trees on them. IF you can find three trees on the hill that are real close to each other and in a triangle pattern you can have them topped$$$$$$ and cabled together$$$$$$ to form a tree tripod. Then you can mount the dish in the normal way. The three trees will not move. Do not expect HD because those systems do need to be amped as they go through long cable runs but SD could be possible IF you can find the trees, a tree guy with cabling experience and an installer who will also do some climbing. You do not want to kill the trees and will want to prune new growth away from the dish. Try to cut the trees to a height you will be ok with to climb a ladder to get to the dish.
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IF I understand your setting the hills to the south have trees on them. IF you can find three trees on the hill that are real close to each other and in a triangle pattern you can have them topped$$$$$$ and cabled together$$$$$$ to form a tree tripod. Then you can mount the dish in the normal way. The three trees will not move. Do not expect HD because those systems do need to be amped as they go through long cable runs but SD could be possible IF you can find the trees, a tree guy with cabling experience and an installer who will also do some climbing. You do not want to kill the trees and will want to prune new growth away from the dish. Try to cut the trees to a height you will be ok with to climb a ladder to get to the dish.
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Sounds like you are willing to spend $$$ have you considered a tower instead of the long cable run?
If you can't clear trees out of the way, that would be a great option if they are on your property, can you drop a tree or would you need to hire someone ?
If you need to hire someone, now your expense goes up again.
500 feet is really long, but using RG11 will help.
IF your gonna do it, I would go with the Slimline 3 without the SWM.
You'll obviously need a SL3, RG11, Fittings for the coax, Ground block, Receivers.
Potential post to mount the dish as well. 2" OD
I used galvanized for mine.
If you need to hire someone, now your expense goes up again.
500 feet is really long, but using RG11 will help.
IF your gonna do it, I would go with the Slimline 3 without the SWM.
You'll obviously need a SL3, RG11, Fittings for the coax, Ground block, Receivers.
Potential post to mount the dish as well. 2" OD
I used galvanized for mine.
Psersonally going that distance. I would install a Dish system. They work much better on those long distances. I have seen them work on a legacy system well over 500'. It's just not normal install and as such the in house guys won't install it.
Dish 500 with a Legacy twin, 311 receiver and you will be good to go.
Dish 500 with a Legacy twin, 311 receiver and you will be good to go.
Depends on the gain of the LNBF if it can handle a 500 foot run or not. After 300 feet I would think it would be best to put an inline amp in the cable run to boost the gain. 500 feet can be done if the installer knows what they are doing. It would probably be best to contact a commercial installer of satellite systems and see what they can do. If they're worth there weight in gold it should be no problem.
500 feet of RG11 can cost over $1000 depending on where you get it. I think I'd be looking at a tower. You can get a 60 ft tower from Solid Signal for about $1250 (or less). Of course you'd need to pour a solid base for it, but I think I'd do a tower before running 500ft of RG11 and still not getting full function. You'd still need someone to calculate the height needed to clear the obstacles and the previous suggestion about getting someone out there who can do a tower install would be the best first step.
How much tower do you need? (how much height) and is it a practical solution? I don't know without seeing the exact situation.
How much tower do you need? (how much height) and is it a practical solution? I don't know without seeing the exact situation.
I've got to completely agree with you on that. I've done two installs that I've "gotten away with" where that was the case. Both times were with solid copper core (not sure if that REALLY matters with Dish's Legacy).
Just to complicate things, I rolled onto a service call 2 years ago where a Slimline was approximately 600' with single, quad shielded RG-6. Oddly enough, the reason for the service call was that an animal chewed a section out of the single line. Hated to walk from the install. Flat out told the customer that it was NOT up to code...but!...I would splice the line. I can't imagine the damn thing working if it would've been a SWM setup.
Def would not try to do anything with a Directv system and more than 200'. With installation verification, it just won't go. Not to say the system would not work, you just can't get it to verify.
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