Digital C Band Setup

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PopcornNMore

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I am trying to receive C band this morning for the first time and am having problems.

I am using a DMS International Model ASC421 c band LNBF along with a Coolsat 4000 receiver. In order to save time in setting up my 1.8m dish I am using my existing 1.2m dish that is already adjusted perfectly onto AMC1.

I changed the LNB to SINGLRE and the LO to 5150. When I remove the KU LNB and place on the C band LNB I get no signal level at all. I was hoping to get at least a signal of 10 - 40% just so I know the c band LNB is working property.

What is an OCS LNB type? Should I be selecting this? I also have 22KHz OFF should it be ON for this LNBF?

Thank you in advance for your help. I am trying to get the ION Television channels on this satellite. Perhaps I should start out with a stronger satellite? If so, what satellite is recommended?
 

qwert1515

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After looking on the internet it looks as if OCS LNB type should be "Single".

LNB Power "On".

Did you skew the new LNB correctly?

I live in California so it might be different for you but 99 Degrees West and 121 Degrees West have strong transponders for me. I am using a 1.2 Meter dish.

EDIT - I just checked and ION's transponder is too weak for me to pick up right now.
 

PopcornNMore

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Thank you I will try Galaxy 23 at 121 degrees to start. I have the LNB skewed correctly. I guess I could have a dead out of the box LNB, but is unlikely especially with a company like DMS International.
 

qwert1515

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If you get this message, wait a few minutes, I am blind scanning 103 West right now and I will PM you any active transponders for me right now.

EDIT - All I found was 4007 H 18809 SR it is listed on Lyngsat as 4005 H 18808 SR 3/4 FEC.
 
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scottc98

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What scaler ring are you using? Assuming the 1.8m is a offset

G23 is much stronger. Its a 42 EIRP for you, compared to 39 for AMC1. Cox sports and STO are blazing on G23 (73-80 on my 1.2)
 

PopcornNMore

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Thank you guys for your help. I am using the scaler ring that came with the model ASC421 LNBF. It makes it difficult because this LNBF is designed for a prime focus dish and not an offset.

It is getting much warmer outside, so I may just continue tomorrow.
 

Mr Tony

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On the ASC421 the skew needs to start at 90 degrees. For some reason it does that

So 0 would be (if standing in front of the dish) 9:00 or 3:00 and skew from there
 

Mr Tony

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If you want to try strong feeds, move to 99 and dial up World Harvest
4000 H 26400

or on AMC1
CTN (WCLF)...thats a church station so you know its strong :)
3984 H 2734
 

PopcornNMore

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After spending several hours this morning trying to get C band and getting frustrated I was about to give up. However, I decided to give it one last shot while the dish was pointed at Galaxy 23. I held the LNBF by hand and slowly turned "POP" the green bars soared. I was totally amazed! I LNBF was pointing off to the side and was receiving a different satellite which I have been unable to verify.

I received:
Cleveland - 3.708H 5.632 (looked like Nascar)
HITN - 4.187V 5.184 (Hispanic Television)
HITN CH2 - 4.187V 5.184 (Hispanic Television)

All Three channels were crystal clear. Also, unlike KU band the C band was very forgiving and received the signal even when I moved the LNBF off focus. I was amazed that these C band channels were being received from a 1.2m (4 foot) dish.

I then turned the dish to Galaxy 11 and tried holding the LNBF by hand once again and received the following also very clear:

CST - 3.715H 4.340 (Football)
COX - 3.715H 4.340 (Football)
TV 1 - 3.921H as well as TV 2,3,4,5,6,9,13,14,15,100.111,55,95,446,96,7,17 and 8.

Picture was fantastic. If anyone can tell me what satellites I was receiving I would greatly appreciate it.

Tomorrow I am going to try to receive the CW channels on Galaxy 11 and ION channels on AMC 1. Thank you again for all your help. At least now I know my LNBF is good and that C band can be received very well on my 1.2m Channel Master dish.
 

ftarock

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what you see is from G23 at 121w


After spending several hours this morning trying to get C band and getting frustrated I was about to give up. However, I decided to give it one last shot while the dish was pointed at Galaxy 23. I held the LNBF by hand and slowly turned "POP" the green bars soared. I was totally amazed! I LNBF was pointing off to the side and was receiving a different satellite which I have been unable to verify.

I received:
Cleveland - 3.708H 5.632 (looked like Nascar)
HITN - 4.187V 5.184 (Hispanic Television)
HITN CH2 - 4.187V 5.184 (Hispanic Television)

All Three channels were crystal clear. Also, unlike KU band the C band was very forgiving and received the signal even when I moved the LNBF off focus. I was amazed that these C band channels were being received from a 1.2m (4 foot) dish.

I then turned the dish to Galaxy 11 and tried holding the LNBF by hand once again and received the following also very clear:

CST - 3.715H 4.340 (Football)
COX - 3.715H 4.340 (Football)
TV 1 - 3.921H as well as TV 2,3,4,5,6,9,13,14,15,100.111,55,95,446,96,7,17 and 8.

Picture was fantastic. If anyone can tell me what satellites I was receiving I would greatly appreciate it.

Tomorrow I am going to try to receive the CW channels on Galaxy 11 and ION channels on AMC 1. Thank you again for all your help. At least now I know my LNBF is good and that C band can be received very well on my 1.2m Channel Master dish.
 

Mr Tony

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I then turned the dish to Galaxy 11 and tried holding the LNBF by hand once again and received the following also very clear:

CST - 3.715H 4.340 (Football)
COX - 3.715H 4.340 (Football)
TV 1 - 3.921H as well as TV 2,3,4,5,6,9,13,14,15,100.111,55,95,446,96,7,17 and 8.

Picture was fantastic. If anyone can tell me what satellites I was receiving I would greatly appreciate it.
it sounds like G3 at 95W....all those TV1 are horse race feeds (usually black though) :(

Tomorrow I am going to try to receive the CW channels on Galaxy 11 and ION channels on AMC 1. Thank you again for all your help. At least now I know my LNBF is good and that C band can be received very well on my 1.2m Channel Master dish.

CW channels need to be manually programmed in with PIDS. They will not come in on a scan

Glad its working out :) Also you could try the nets on G4 (G16 99W)
 

PopcornNMore

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Thank you ftarock and iceberg. Galaxy 23 and Galaxy 3C were the satellites I received today. Also, thank you for the tip on the CW channels.

Perhaps I'll bring out the 1.8m dish tomorrow and experiment more. :)
 
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