Dish Network May Drop KWQC-TV

[JP Threw]

From the KWQC web site.


"Dish Network May Drop KWQC-TV

Updated: Dec 10, 2008 04:44 PM CST





Dear DISH Subscriber:

DISH's contract with KWQC-TV6 originally expired on December 10, 2008 . KWQC-TV offered to extend the contract in an attempt to reach an agreement with DISH. The extension was not accepted by DISH. For the past several months our company has attempted to reach a new agreement with DISH. Unfortunately DISH has elected not to accept our proposal.

We know that it is important to keep you informed, and therefore, we want you to know the FACTS:

DISH charges you a fee for KWQC-TV6. We believe DISH should be willing to pay a small, but fair, portion of the fees you pay to DISH for the program content we provide to you.

The fair compensation that we are asking for as part of our contract with DISH is about a penny per day per subscriber. We believe that a penny per day per subscriber is a reasonable demand for our award winning news, sports and entertainment programming. It is considerably less than the amount paid by DISH to less popular satellite/cable networks.

DISH will likely contend that the increase we are asking in its fee is unreasonable. It is not. We have provided DISH with our signal at a very modest rate compared to what DISH pays for other program services that are less popular.

We are trying to prevent DISH from discriminating against our station.

If you want DISH to continue to provide KWQC-TV, please call DISH and let them know.

We will continue to work diligently in the hope that DISH will complete an agreement for carriage of KWQC-TV6.
We regret the inconvenience that DISH may cause you.

Our programs include your favorite local news, weather, sports and entertainment programs including Quad Cities Today, TV6 NEWS, NBC's The Today Show, Oprah, Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, The Office, Law and Order, The Tonight Show, and NFL Sunday Night Football. You may continue to watch the great programs on KWQC-TV6 by alternative means. Your choices include:

Free over-the-air reception directly from the station
DIRECTV
the local cable system
In some cases, the local telephone company.
We will keep you fully informed of the status."



Almost word for word of Scott's post "Dish to drop WLNS? "

 

[gopherscot]

Not again ... I just got WHBF (Rock Island) back a couple of months ago.

 

[david_jr]

Who's dropping who?

 

[thedamaja]

Almost word for word of Scott's post "Dish to drop WLNS? "

Looks like they are both owned by the same company

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[jcrandall]

If anyone that gets this station locally sees it go out tonight can you post for us so we can get it on the news page. We'd just like to get local confirmation. Thanks.

 

[voyagerbob]

we are asking for as part of our contract with DISH is about a penny per day per subscriber.

You may continue to watch the great programs on KWQC-TV6 by alternative means. Your choices include:

Free over-the-air reception directly from the station

Those were my favorite parts of the quote.

In Summary "We only want a penny per day from every subscriber that could most likely get our signal for free anyway. For the entire time they ever subscribe to pay tv."

If you are no longer able to be charged for the signal then I guess you will have to settle for the free signal.

 

[gopherscot]

If anyone that gets this station locally sees it go out tonight can you post for us so we can get it on the news page. We'd just like to get local confirmation. Thanks.

I will let you know!

 

[digiblur]

Check the latest uplink report. I posted a picture of the slate you will see soon and all the other stations.

 

[Stargazer]

So Dish Network is paying less than 30 cents per local channel then but charging us about $1 per local unless they have to pay for stations other than the most popular ones NBC ABC FOX CBS CW and that leaves 3 more locals at 30 cents a piece to get to $6 or 75 cents per channel since most have it in a package for $5 more per month. They are getting double their money back it sounds like even at 60 cents per channel for those markets with more locals.

 

[KimmiKat]

KRON (Also a Young Broadcasting co.) in San Francisco is doing the same thing. Young needs $$ and hitting the sat providers up for it. This happened a few years back with Dish.

 

[Juan]

So Dish Network is paying less than 30 cents per local channel then but charging us about $1 per local unless they have to pay for stations other than the most popular ones NBC ABC FOX CBS CW and that leaves 3 more locals at 30 cents a piece to get to $6 or 75 cents per channel since most have it in a package for $5 more per month. They are getting double their money back it sounds like even at 60 cents per channel for those markets with more locals.

umm what about uplink costs?? some markets have 18-19 channels whileothers have 4..not to mention the cost to develope and launch a sattellite with spotbeams..its not all gravy!!!

 

[jcrandall]

I guess they may have reached an agreement, or at least a temporary stay while they continue negotation.

The "dish may drop" message is still on many stations homepage from Young, so no real indication yet other than that the stations are still on Dish.

 

[riffjim4069]

Those were my favorite parts of the quote.

In Summary "We only want a penny per day from every subscriber that could most likely get our signal for free anyway. For the entire time they ever subscribe to pay tv."

If you are no longer able to be charged for the signal then I guess you will have to settle for the free signal.

The part you're missing is E*, D*, and Cable are Pay TV services (i.e., they charge customers for programming services). If people want "free broadcast TV" they can certainly errect an OTA antenna and receive this programming (most popular/highest rated shows) without charge. A bigger outrage should be ESPN charging ALL CUSTOMERS $2-$3 for their sports channels (complete with commercials too)...even the people who do not watch sports. Sorry, but I don't see the broadcasters demand as being unreasonable...and neither do E*, FiOS, and most cable providers.

This is just another "Here we go again" pattern of behavior at Dish Network.

 

[mperdue]

So Dish Network is paying less than 30 cents per local channel then but charging us about $1 per local unless they have to pay for stations other than the most popular ones NBC ABC FOX CBS CW and that leaves 3 more locals at 30 cents a piece to get to $6 or 75 cents per channel since most have it in a package for $5 more per month. They are getting double their money back it sounds like even at 60 cents per channel for those markets with more locals.

Yeah, and all the equipment required for Dish to make it happen is free - so is the maintenance on that equipment. Dish wants money for providing that equipment and keeping it working. The local stations want money for something they normally give away for free. And once they are on Dish the stations can claim more viewers and charge more for advertising.

Mario

 

[rjsam2000]

Yeah, and all the equipment required for Dish to make it happen is free - so is the maintenance on that equipment. Dish wants money for providing that equipment and keeping it working. The local stations want money for something they normally give away for free. And once they are on Dish the stations can claim more viewers and charge more for advertising.

Mario

And the local station has NO operating costs??? How about wages, equipment, programming costs etc. Oh wait everything is free for the local station, yeah right. Poor little Dish and poor little billionaire Charlie.

 

[mperdue]

And the local station has NO operating costs??? How about wages, equipment, programming costs etc. Oh wait everything is free for the local station, yeah right. Poor little Dish and poor little billionaire Charlie.

Sure they do. They also have a business plan where they get paid by advertisers. On the other hand HBO, Cinemax and the other pay services don't get paid by advertisers - they get paid by satellite and cable companies. If the local networks were commercial free I might pay for their service too. But they aren't and they are trying to get paid twice for their product.

How much money either party has is immaterial.

Mario

 

[Techfizzle]

so was it dropped?

 

[JP Threw]

Now at this time KWQC-TV scrolled across the bottom of tv They have extended the contract untill 6 pm. At that time, if no contract they are cutting off their signal for Dish network.

 

[gopherscot]

KWQC's web page said progress has been made and extended deadline to 7:00 pm.

 

[JP Threw]

KWQC-TV signal is off of dish network now.