Dish vs Space X

[tanman]

In light of today's finalization of the boost deal I found this interesting.Almost like Dish doesn't want rural customers to have broadband access.

SpaceX Satellite Internet Plan Hits Dish Ground Interference (1)

Even as SpaceX plans to launch another batch of satellites in its quest to provide ultrafast internet service from orbit, the company’s plan is running into interference on the ground.

news.bloomberglaw.com

 

[Bruce]

Rural customers are more likely to get better broadband access from Starlink then they are from 5G, that is based on most rural customers not having any proximity to towers or the small cells.

 

[eddie willers]

I don't know anything about the technical aspects of the spectrum under consideration, but I have wondered about who would install SpaceX's home antennas. Dish has a fleet, you know. Maybe a scratch my back and I'll scratch yours deal is in the works.

 

[tanman]

I don't know anything about the technical aspects of the spectrum under consideration, but I have wondered about who would install SpaceX's home antennas. Dish has a fleet, you know. Maybe a scratch my back and I'll scratch yours deal is in the works.

From what I've read the antennas have been designed for very easy installation-no pro install needed.Personally I'm on Charter but live in a state(VT) where many people could benefit if Spacelink is anywhere near to be as good as advertised.

 

[navychop]

This late 5G grab is a day late and a dollar short.

 

[NYDutch]

This late 5G grab is a day late and a dollar short.

Dish filed their spectrum request with the FCC in 2016...

From the above link:

"Dish since 2016 has had a request before the commission to open the spectrum known as the 12 GHz Band to mobile broadband, rather than reserving it only for satellite-based services."

 

[HipKat]

I don't know anything about the technical aspects of the spectrum under consideration, but I have wondered about who would install SpaceX's home antennas. Dish has a fleet, you know. Maybe a scratch my back and I'll scratch yours deal is in the works.

On the tech portal, it's come up form some techs that Dish should look into installing Starlink service

 

[tanman]

Details on SpaceX Starlink beta emerge along with photos of user terminals

Starlink beta trials will start in Northern US and parts of Canada, new FAQ says.

arstechnica.com

In another tweet yesterday, Musk noted that the "Starlink terminal has motors to self-orient for optimal view angle," eliminating the need for an expert installer. The terminal can be placed "in garden, on roof, table, pretty much anywhere, so long as it has a wide view of the sky," Musk wrote. He also wrote that once service is available, it "will take less than a minute to order on Starlink.com.

 

[eddie willers]

Details on SpaceX Starlink beta emerge along with photos of user terminals

Starlink beta trials will start in Northern US and parts of Canada, new FAQ says.

arstechnica.com

In another tweet yesterday, Musk noted that the "Starlink terminal has motors to self-orient for optimal view angle," eliminating the need for an expert installer. The terminal can be placed "in garden, on roof, table, pretty much anywhere, so long as it has a wide view of the sky," Musk wrote. He also wrote that once service is available, it "will take less than a minute to order on Starlink.com.

People will want a neat installation with the wire into the house virtually invisible. It will open up work for installers. The only question is will Elon want to keep it in-house?

 

[tanman]

People will want a neat installation with the wire into the house virtually invisible. It will open up work for installers. The only question is will Elon want to keep it in-house?

"Some" people will want a neat installation.I sold tons of both Direct tv and Dish with self install kits back in the day.Even when the model went to free professional installation there were people that wanted to do it themselves-I suspect the need for instant gratification.

 

[KE4EST]

Yeah, most in rural areas won't care if a wire is visible, they are just tired of no good high speed internet.

 

[mdram]

whomever can cover the most people chould get the use of the spectrum

 

[jerryez]

Some Dish techs do such crappy works, that always promotes a self install. If you want it done right, do it yourself. Do not take it personal, unless you are one of those crappy techs.

 

[HipKat]

Some Dish techs do such crappy works, that always promotes a self install. If you want it done right, do it yourself. Do not take it personal, unless you are one of those crappy techs.

Trust me, I fix enough "work" by crappy techs

 

[Forrest White]

Тhere always are conservatives who oppose new technologies. It is quite sad that people who do not use our taxes for development and spend their own possibilities are still refused.

 

[Nebugeater]

"Some" people will want a neat installation.I sold tons of both Direct tv and Dish with self install kits back in the day.Even when the model went to free professional installation there were people that wanted to do it themselves-I suspect the need for instant gratification.

I know this post has some age to it but will reply anyway. Many people want to install it themselves so that they do not need to wait for an installer to show up in a time window that can kill an entire day.

 

[Nebugeater]

Yeah, most in rural areas won't care if a wire is visible, they are just tired of no good high speed internet.

WOW there is painting with a broad brush. The "not caring" is not a rural thing. It is a personal pride thing and they do not live in one type of area.

 

[patmurphey]

People will want a neat installation with the wire into the house virtually invisible. It will open up work for installers. The only question is will Elon want to keep it in-house?

Elon will surprise you. Look at what he is doing with his solar roof program. He is licensing and training installers and assisting directly with programs to ease and standardize permitting from local jurisdictions.

 

[sktrus]

Satellite internet so far is very lousy. My neighbor tried twice and hated it. Heavy rain and it's gone. When the dust settles and people get unlimited 100MB speeds in rural areas (with Elon's dish), they will rush. AT@T knows it. They have started their promo for cell tower connected internet subscription. 1 yr commitment, 500 GB limit, about 40 bucks before extra fees and taxes. Their speed is up to 25 mbps. Of course, that speed wil go waaay down at bad weather and evening hrs. It is an option though.

 

[mdram]

verizon is also looking at cellular home, but very limited areas so far