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Discussion in 'DISH Network Support Forum' started by mr.crane, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. EarDemon

    EarDemon SatelliteGuys Pro

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    Actually with those speeds and latency, it was a pain to browse this site non-cached in Edge and IE. Chrome was more bearable since it's the browser I always use. Initially when I got HughesNet it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it's gotten worse over the past two years in my area. When I have some time off from work I'm going to get my installer out here to repoint me to Echostar 19.

    Anywho, back on real internet now

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  2. joewhite57

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    Reminds me of the speeds I had with Dish’s satellite offering 7 or 8 years ago deep blue or big blue, something like that. Barely there signal that we’d loose on a clear day. Paid one $100 service call to have it repeaked . Techs that were send didn’t have proper meters to do the job. It was better than dial-up when it worked but I’ll take xfinity internet over anything else available in my neighborhood.
     
  3. EarDemon

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    Haha I think you mean WildBlue :)

    Which is/was owned by Viasat, which re-branded themselves to Exede and now they just go by Viasat.

    When I was looking into satellite internet three years ago I initially wanted to go with Exede/Viasat over HughesNet, but the the beam that covers my area was closed to new subscribers so HugheNet was my only option for a secondary internet source. As stated above, DishNet is just re-branded HughesNet or Viasat. Not sure if you signed up for DishNet how it was decided which service you'd get but every real life instance I saw it was 100% Hughes, sounds like you had Viasat. But now it sounds like it's only Hughes, which makes sense since Dish Network and Hughes are sister companies. Never had any problem with losing the signal. In the heaviest rains I do, but my Hughes is more immune to rain fade then my DirecTV. Can't speak for the quality though, as I don't use it much.
     
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    I've been using a portable HughesNET Gen 5 system with a .98M dish for several months. My last speed tests averaged in the 6 Mbps range:
    HughesNET Gen 5 Evaluation 3 Results

    However, my "average" speed is all over the place but typically closer to 20 Mbps and never 50 Mbps unless I'm using one of the "optimistic" Internet speed testers.
     
  5. HipKat

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    If you go to 192.168.0.1 in a browser, it'll bring up the Hughesnet portal. See where your data is at. If you're out of data, you've been throttled down. Typically, Gen 5 speeds run over 20 Mb/s during peak hours, from what I've seen. Also, you're Dish may need to be repointed
     
  6. EarDemon

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    I hardly ever use my HughesNet connection, so it's impossible that I'm throttled. Isn't HughesNet signal strength measured in up to 120 points/units/whatever? If so, then my 110 is pretty good.

    Again, I am not pointed at Echostar 19, so that's probably part of my problem, but I would have expected performance on Echostar 17 to improve as more people migrate off of it and upgrade to Gen 5. Not sure how much geographical area a beam covers, but if I'm on the same beam as portions of the Southern Tier and all three area Indian Reservations then that explains why my primetime speeds are so poor.



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  7. stardust3

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    There are so many variables with Hughes. Which beam you are on, beam congestion, .74 or .98 dish, weather....etc. Signal is also variable and can be different from the middle to the edge of the beam. Supposedly echo star 17 & 19 offer the same service, it really boils down to which has less congestion for a particular location. The on site verification tool aka OVT is the only true way to determine if a dish is properly aligned, can't be based on signal strength alone.
     
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    This guy?

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    The on site validation tool OVT is used after a dish is aligned to verify all parameters are within Hughes specs. It's a web based test available to installers, not a physical tool like the dapt you have pictured.
     
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    Off topic, but Upstate NY?? I know of nowhere else that people use the term "Southern Tier" than back home, which would make the Res's in Akron, Dunkirk and Niagara County or Silver Creek
     
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    I install and service HughesNet also. I'd strongly suggest you get a tech out there. Whether you hardly use it or not, you're still paying for a service that isn't working properly. Besides misalignment, it's possible the original installer didn't use solid copper coax, high frequency ground block and wall plate barrel, among other things. It doesn't really matter if you're pointed at echostar 17 or 19, you're current download speed is a tenth of where it should be.
     
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    You mean like this:

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    No.

    As was said the OVT is a special test that is available only to certified installers.
     
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    I guess I'm using the amateur install version with my mobile HughesNET Gen 5.
     
  15. Scott Greczkowski

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    Well what else would you need it for?! :D
     
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  16. EarDemon

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    Yes, don't you remember 5G Is DISH’s “Manhattan Project” :)

    I'm a little southeast of Batavia, in the tri-county area where Erie, Genesee and Wyoming meet up.

    Akron = Tonawanda Reservation
    Irving/Gowanda = Cattaraugus Reservation
    Lewiston = Tuscarora Reservation

    There are no options for terrestrial internet besides dial up on the reservations, and the various Nations will not allow cell towers on Indian land so its satellite or nothing. Unless you live on the outer edges and can pick up something from a cell tower. Between the three reservations there are probably 1,000 households, the majority of which have Hughes. Again not sure how much geographical area a beam covers, but I would image I'm definitely sharing one with the Tonawanda Reservation. If the beam reaches more south, then there are a ton of households in Chautauqua, Catt and Allegany that may not have cable available
     
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    I appreciate the knowledge, but it's not a signal problem. It's a capacity/bandwidth/utilization problem.

    This is what I got as soon as I got home from work at 5:30 today and it's drizzly out right now, and it will drop as the evening progresses.

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    No misaligned dish or poor quality coax will get me 15 Mbps at 5:30, 1 Mbps at 7:30 and probably 30 Mbps at 2 in the morning. Besides my installer was a local independent dealer who prides himself on quality. An old school guy who believes in doing things right, not fast/cheap. The coax and ground block are good and the install took 4 or 5 hours. The only thing that will improve my service is having him back out to re-point me to E19, and hope it's less crowded during peak times.

    I don’t really pay for it. My employer does, well most of it any way. I expense $65 of my Charter bill and $60 of my HughesNet bill. Believe me, if I had other options for a secondary source of internet, I would have not went with a satellite option.
     
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    I'm from Buffalo, originally (and wish I was back there). I know exactly what you're talking about
     
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    And that’s over WiFi on my iPhone. If I go to my computer it’s 940/940
     
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