Does the Hopper 3 do HDR? (1 Viewer)

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I bought a Phillips 4k tv model 6000 with google cast from SEARS and it just came out this last October of 2016. I also bought a new 4k a/v receiver with HDR too. Now there is three choices for the tv with HDMI mode for each of the 4 inputs. You can select 4k@ 60hz HDR ( High dynamic range for colors), or 4k@ 60 hz or 4k @ 30 hz compatibly. Now according to the you tube video about this tv , they say if you have a legacy 4k model satellite/cable receiver you use the second option without HDR. I have tried all three options and see no difference in the colors using any of the modes on my hopper 3 satellite receiver.

I do see a distinct difference using my new Samsung 4k blu ray player with HDR through my a/v receiver to my tv. The colors are definitely brighter and when watching a 4k show like " Man in the High Castle" on Amazon. When you check your picture settings while on this show the 4k is locked and not scaled and the HDR button is locked too , meaning you can't change it at all. So I know it is using the HDR feature. All this makes me wonder if the Hopper 3 has the HDR feature at all. Because when you check the picture settings while watching say Netflix 4k event like "The Ranch" through the hopper , you can still adjust the HDR button and it isn't locked.

Does anyone think that the hopper 3 has this HDR feature ? IF not will the next Hopper 4 have it ? Makes you wonder.
 
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Dish only delivers 4K content via VOD right now (I think). Otherwise you will only get 1080.

The Netflix app on the H3 does flip the TV to 4K mode; however, I am not paying for the Netflix package to deliver 4K; hence, I am not really getting 4K. The H3 and/or Netflix app on the H3 is simply up converting. For Netflix, you have to have their highest package to get 4K. Netflix does recommend a 25Mbps download internet connection for 4K.

Officially the H3 does support 4K and HDR. You just have to have the right content ... which is still limited.
 

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HDR, High Dynamic Range, is for contrast - white to black. WCG, wide color gamut, is for greater color range and rendition.
 

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I bought a Phillips 4k tv model 6000 with google cast from SEARS and it just came out this last October of 2016. I also bought a new 4k a/v receiver with HDR too. Now there is three choices for the tv with HDMI mode for each of the 4 inputs. You can select 4k@ 60hz HDR ( High dynamic range for colors), or 4k@ 60 hz or 4k @ 30 hz compatibly. Now according to the you tube video about this tv , they say if you have a legacy 4k model satellite/cable receiver you use the second option without HDR. I have tried all three options and see no difference in the colors using any of the modes on my hopper 3 satellite receiver.

I do see a distinct difference using my new Samsung 4k blu ray player with HDR through my a/v receiver to my tv. The colors are definitely brighter and when watching a 4k show like " Man in the High Castle" on Amazon. When you check your picture settings while on this show the 4k is locked and not scaled and the HDR button is locked too , meaning you can't change it at all. So I know it is using the HDR feature. All this makes me wonder if the Hopper 3 has the HDR feature at all. Because when you check the picture settings while watching say Netflix 4k event like "The Ranch" through the hopper , you can still adjust the HDR button and it isn't locked.

Does anyone think that the hopper 3 has this HDR feature ? IF not will the next Hopper 4 have it ? Makes you wonder.

I do not think the Netflix App on the Hopper supports HDR, and your observation that the settings are not changed automatically would seem to support that. With Amazon if the app being used does not support HDR you won't see any HDR offerings, I don't know about Netflix.
 

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I'm going to check and see if Netflix does the same as Amazon when I watch it through my blu ray player and see if it locks it in on HDR. I do have the higher pack with Netflix and have almost 35mpbs to 40mpbs with my Spectrum cable internet (formally Time Warner Cable) .
 

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Ok, I just checked and watched one of the Netflix 4k shows about Oceans and it shows under the picture controls Ultra HD upscaling is whited out and can't be changed or adjusted. The tv remote control when pushed on Information shows UHD 2160p60 Unscaled .The HDR feature can be turned off and on , so this confirms to me that the Hopper 3 does NOT do HDR at all. So I guess we will have to wait till next hopper to get that feature included. Makes sense that it wouldn't because it was released early in 2016 and the newer tvs all came out this fall with HDR as the newest feature you had to have. Luckily I can watch Netflix through my 4k blu ray player and see it with HDR.
 
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The Hopper 3 does support HDR, however the Netflix app provided by Netflix to dish does not.

I will ask them next week if that is going to change anytime soon.


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HDR, High Dynamic Range, is for contrast - white to black. WCG, wide color gamut, is for greater color range and rendition.
According to the Philips tv website their HDR feature is defined as :

" High Dynamic Range is a technology that lets you experience more detail and CAPTIVATING COLORS for an even more engaging television experience. More perceivable shades of blacks, whites, and ALL COLORS. This boils down to greater perceived brightness and contrast with darker shadows creating a breathtaking image."

That is why I waited a whole another year to get it when it came out last month and buy it at a higher price. The HDR feature that now the tv reviewers all say is a "must have" feature from now on. Other wise I could of bought last years 4k tv and paid about $255.00 at Walmart to get it , instead of $699.99 at Sears for the newer 6000 model.
 

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The Hopper 3 does support HDR, however the Netflix app provided by Netflix to dish does not.

I will ask them next week if that is going to change anytime soon.


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Thanks Scott for the clarification. This explains why I am seeing more colors in the faces of people on this new 4k tv, even on regular satellite programming. But not on Netflix. It makes my older Phillips hdtv I had a year or so , look paler in comparison. Especially on flesh tones. This new tv shows a lot more colors in their faces that I have had to get used to it ,over my other hd tvs in the house. It almost makes you think something is wrong, because there is so much more color than normal HDTV images on other hd tvs. I have now adjusted to it.:biggrin2
 

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Dish's lack of support for 4k, HDR, Atmos,and DTS-X has me scratching my head. With them skipping CES it indicates nothing new in the pipeline any time soon.

After our home flooded last spring I now have a new TV, AV receiver, and 7.1.4 speaker system. Netflix and Amazon have a considerable amount of 4k and HDR content, with more being added every day. Dish has a pitiful selection of 3 or 4 compressed 4k movies that they want to "RENT" me for outrageous prices, even though I am already paying them $180 per month. Netflix charges me an extra $4 per month for 4k, and Amazon is free with my prime subscription (which was already justified with 2 day shipping and free music).

After watching a month of Netflix and Amazon (directly from my LG tv's app) putting a dish program on gives me a soft muddy picture. Their audio, while not atmos or dtsx yet, is worlds better than that from dish (actually stunning).

And to top it all off to get my price down to $180 I have to call them every 6 mo.to get them to renew my "discounts". I have been a dedicated & loyal customer since the mid 90's when my receiver was a stamped steel box made by echostar, and I have upgraded to every new technology since.

Methinks it's time to put a new preamp on the old antenna, and start thinking about cutting the cord myself.......
 

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