eastern arc dish 1000.4 in halifax, ns

[mtnbiker]

Hey Guys,
I'm a newbie on this site, but hoping to get some help. I am in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and helping a friend get his dish eastern arc satellite tuned in and having some issues. I am using a super buddy meter, which I assume should work as it has the settings for the dish 1000.4 system with the dpp lnb but not having much luck. I am thinking that the dish may be too small to pick up these satellites. I have tuned in many systems over the years, and have always used 1 meter dishes for the 61.5, and this elliptical dish is not near the size.

I am looking for someone that may give me some info that may help us. I hope I gave enough information, but if not please let me know.

thanks in advance
Glenn

 

[ilfoman]

I'm south of Liverpool, NS and getting good signals on 24" dishes with Legacy LNBF's, except for 72.7, which is very weak.
I think maybe Halifax is too far north. Check the footprint maps on Lyngsat.
61.5, 110 and 119 are all strong signals here. PM me if you want further info.

 

[navigates]

Without knowing the specifics, I don't see why it won't work. I'm using the eastern arc on the west coast and get decent signal levels. The Lowest I've seen on 72.7 TP6 is 30. Average is 36 which is good. 61.5 comes in very strong. (50's). 77 comes in at average of 30's as well.

 

[mtnbiker]

Is anyone having success tuning in with a super buddy meter? Im assuming that if my skew is correct, and I have signal on one of the satellites, the others should be there. Also it shouldn't matter what port of the dpp LNb I have hooked up to the meter should it as they all should be carrying the signals from all 3 satellites.

 

[Jim5506]

The 72.7 satellite is "chopped" off along the northern US states because Canadian dish services use the same location and have precidence in Canada.

You will notice the footprint of 72.7 starts dropping precipitously about the southern border of North Dakota.

 

[mtnbiker]

Would it help to put in a larger dish for 72.7?

 

[boba]

Would it help to put in a larger dish for 72.7?

Probably not, if I remember some of Maine had problems receiving Eastern Arc so Nova Scotia North East of Maine will probably be out of the footprint.

 

[ilfoman]

Just checked and I'm getting a signal of 21 on transponder 19 on 72.7
Located on the south shore of NS about 120 km south of Halifax.[
Everything works OK unless we get bad weather. This is our summer res.
It could become a problem now Dish has moved all the hD to 72.7
I'm going to try a repoint.
QUOTE=boba;2828241]Probably not, if I remember some of Maine had problems receiving Eastern Arc so Nova Scotia North East of Maine will probably be out of the footprint.[/QUOTE]

 

[mtnbiker]

What size dish are you using? And is it the 1000.4 eastern arc dish?

 

[ilfoman]

It's a "modified" Turbo HD dish with the EA LNBF for 61.5/72/77.
I've never been able to find 77, but there's only a bunch of locals on it.

 

[mtnbiker]

Do you mind me asking what you have the skew set to?

 

[navigates]

I can check it tonight when I get home. I followed the skew angles in the dish installation booklet. Use that as an approx and then fine tune. I believe you should peak 72.7 and then adjust the skew for 61.5. I get 61.5 very strong but 72.7 comes in just fine. I can fine tune 72.7 to get to 40's but then I loose 61.5. I don't loose signals so I'm not too keen to bump up a number.

 

[navigates]

My eastern arc installation in Los Angeles along with skew pictures. Hope this helps

 

[mtnbiker]

Thanks for the info, very nice pictures btw. I don't think those specs will help me much as I'm in the eastern part of canada. But if your getting good signal strengths in la I should have no problem here. But not working quite right at the moment.

 

[ilfoman]

mtnbiker, I spent a long time tweaking my Turbo HD set-up yesterday, and the best I could get on 72.7 was 28 on transponder 19. some tp's were as low as 17, but still in the "green" and all the channels worked. however, 61.5 came in at 53 or more on all tp's. I just wish they were using 61.5 for the HD. Ironic that 72.7 is a Canadian bird!
I'm going to try a D500 and I'll let you know the results. Some posters have had success with D500, and there's nothing on 77 that I need.
For SD I use a 211k on 110/119/118 and it works great - all tp's over 50. Using legacy LNB's I get readings in the 70 range!

 

[garys]

You may want to try a two dish solution, ss can be fine tuned better when looking at one satellite.

 

[navigates]

mtnbiker, I spent a long time tweaking my Turbo HD set-up yesterday, and the best I could get on 72.7 was 28 on transponder 19. some tp's were as low as 17, but still in the "green" and all the channels worked. however, 61.5 came in at 53 or more on all tp's. I just wish they were using 61.5 for the HD. Ironic that 72.7 is a Canadian bird!
I'm going to try a D500 and I'll let you know the results. Some posters have had success with D500, and there's nothing on 77 that I need.
For SD I use a 211k on 110/119/118 and it works great - all tp's over 50. Using legacy LNB's I get readings in the 70 range!

Dish 500 will get you higher signal levels as the dish is slightly larger. I have a dish 500 as well. the lowest I get is about 27's and an average of 33-34 on remaining TP's. Here in LA we hardly get any rain fade so might leave it the way it is.

 

[Tampa8]

Why do you need 77? I'm betting you don't or wouldn't get the locals from there anyway. Only align for 61.5 and 72.7

 

[navigates]

Why do you need 77? I'm betting you don't or wouldn't get the locals from there anyway. Only align for 61.5 and 72.7

I aligned to 72.7 and 61.5. Didn't bother about 77 and it just came in. My observances are that if I max on 72.7, I loose 61.5. If I make the 61.5 slightly weaker then 72.7 does not increase much. If I loose the 61.5 totally, 72.7 peaks to 40's. Therefore I'm left with a weak 72.7 and a very strong 61.5 on the west coast.

I don't think dish has provisioned 77 on my account as I don't have a single test channel on 77. I believe they have to provision the SAT on your account right.? I May be wrong.

I need 61.5 due to the Pitts DMA.

 

[garys]

Just be wary, at some point most locals will be moved to spot and if you are outside the beam, you will lose them.