Eastern arc vs Western arc (1 Viewer)

littlecloud319

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Why does dish use two different arcs when both are visible from the USA?

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All satellites on each arc are NOT visible in the entire US. A good portion of the Country can not see 129 or see it well enough due to low height. I can't see it at all in Ct due to terrain. Reason #2 it allows not needing all the locals taking up space on one ARC. Reason #3 rain fade is greater so in Tampa as an example you will have less rain fade with WA than EA. Reason #4 though I cut down trees to get it, I barely see the WA (and as mentioned not 129 at all) but easily see the EA partly because the EA is higher in the sky. Reason #5 where snow falls because the angle of the DISH is not as high, with the WA you get less snow build up. Reason #6 neither Alaska or Hawaii can see the EA.
So each has it's pluses and minuses and it allows more people to get the service.
 

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Also looking with dish align all the D* sats used here are in that area. My grandparents next door have D* and are pointed right about there and have perfect signal. It just odd that there wouldn’t be some kind of option then. When I had dish installed I had a post already mounted for a dish from D* in ‘07 and he said he couldn’t use it. But based on dish align he could have used a 1000.2 and just mounted it there and have saved us the stress and time having our lawn dug up twice just to have it set up properly.
 

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Also looking with dish align all the D* sats used here are in that area. My grandparents next door have D* and are pointed right about there and have perfect signal. It just odd that there wouldn’t be some kind of option then. When I had dish installed I had a post already mounted for a dish from D* in ‘07 and he said he couldn’t use it. But based on dish align he could have used a 1000.2 and just mounted it there and have saved us the stress and time having our lawn dug up twice just to have it set up properly.

I don't say this being mean but you have been wrong in your assumptions in your posts here so there may well have been a reason why they didn't. And your post makes no sense to me - you say they did more work than they needed to, how is that being lazy?
 

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I don't say this being mean but you have been wrong in your assumptions in your posts here so there may well have been a reason why they didn't. And your post makes no sense to me - you say they did more work than they needed to, how is that being lazy?

He would have had to run back for proper equipment
 

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I disagree. He obviously had the correct equipment to do the correct install, why go back and get whatever to adapt it to some other non DISH installation.

Proper equipment as in correct dish. The first tech didn’t even bury the cable. Had to have them send a tech to finish the job. So yes, laziness.
 

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As far as the EA vs WA question goes, in mid-country both arcs may be pretty equally visible, but that does not apply to the entire country. Where we are right now in upstate NY for instance, the lowest WA sat, 129, is at a 16 degree elevation, while the lowest EA bird, 61.5, is at 38 degrees. That's a huge difference when there's trees around...
 

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How hard is it to get dish to install WA dish with 61.5 added on. I know it possible because people have talked about having that setup in other threads. I have better WA signal where I am but HD locals are on 61.5 so the dish subcontractor here usually installed EA dish by default.
 
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Split arcs are frowned upon. Because 61.5 and 110 don't carry exactly the same programming it is possible to end up missing a channel. Eastern Arc currently has 2 satellites and Western Arc has 3 satellites so there is possibly channels left out. I think it was in yesterdays posting that DISH was moving channels from 72.7 to 61.5.
 

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I had split arc when we first got our Hopper several years ago, what a mess, it confused the Hopper so that it would not record PTAT.

We finally went all EA even though the signal drops out sooner with rainfall, it isn't a big problem here in west Texas.
 

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I had split arc when we first got our Hopper several years ago, what a mess, it confused the Hopper so that it would not record PTAT.

We finally went all EA even though the signal drops out sooner with rainfall, it isn't a big problem here in west Texas.

Just curious about your statement here about the signal dropping out sooner on the EA. Is this due to storms moving from east to west in your area, or ??
I'm in an area of eastern Iowa where storms always seem to break apart coming from the west right as it gets to our area, then reforms again just to the east of us. Wondering if that would have more signal drop...
 
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