i don't know specifics but i believe i posted earlier that if things are successful in october, then echostar 11 would probably be sked for q1 next year. however, i have no idea if echostar 11 is next in the sked behind directv 11.
echostar 11 launch update from sea launch
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i don't know specifics but i believe i posted earlier that if things are successful in october, then echostar 11 would probably be sked for q1 next year. however, i have no idea if echostar 11 is next in the sked behind directv 11.
What objectively constitutes a lie is "knowing" what you say (or even imply) is not factual but you say or imply it anyway. Charlie is often sited for his supposed prowness at poker. Well the one that usually walks away with all the chips is usually the one who lies the best.
So does Charlie lie or does he sometimes get caught up in his role and rely on miss-information? Probably both but that's no excuse because as the top dog, it's his responsibility to not only know what he's talking about but also what his subordinates are saying. A sense of honor and integrity mandate taking that responsibility seriously - even when it's not profitable but it's easy to loose that sense when the people you serve no longer demand it.
Charlie has a background of a being a bean counter starting as a financial analyst for Frito Lay and as a professional blackjack player until he was kicked out of a casino for card counting. I suspect charlie has a broad knowledge of what's going on but not all the nuts and bolts of future plans, he comes from the marketing side not the technical side.
The SeaLaunch normal schedule is about two months between launches. D11 is reported to be scheduled for the December/January launch slot after the October launch.
Personally, I fully believe Charlie knows full well what he is doing/saying. IMO this is an attempt for some 'press' in the timeframe when his competitor has been getting the overwhelming majority of the 'buzz'.
I don't think this is a bad thing. It is important to get your name out and create a stir.
Remember again - they ALL do whats best for them 100% of the time, not what is best for US. Goes for D*, E*, cable, FiOS and ALL of the rest.
I don't think this is a bad thing. It is important to get your name out and create a stir.
Remember again - they ALL do whats best for them 100% of the time, not what is best for US. Goes for D*, E*, cable, FiOS and ALL of the rest.
As Sea Launch is not in the habit of sharing information about future launches, we're probably going to have to be happy with what IcedT has managed to wring out of them until after the Thuraya 3 launch.Seems like the appropriate question to ask yet no one else had asked,
Well if DISh launches E11 in March that will mean that the new mpeg4 service will be delayed by about 45 days after that ,so that will give DIRECTV a lot of time to get ahead in the way of HD channels added. DISH had better find another way to get this sat launched before March or they might never recover in the race to add hd first.
I think 45 days won't be enough. I thought folks have been saying that E11 will be replacing two existing satellites, and then if those two satellites will be used for the new service they need to be moved to their new oribital position then tested there.
When did the 622's first become available for lease? I think it was around March '06. There are going to be a substantial number of 18 month committments that will be satisfied soon. I don't know that E will give up with a substantial lead to D before they get their new sats up and working. But the back breaker for me is 129. Probably isn't a big concern for most of the country. But I can see large defections in the Pac NW once D has caught even. Maybe there aren't enough of us out here for them to worry about us.
Just because E11 does not get up, does not mean Dish 2 system cannot start. In a limited way they could do it with E6 and AMC-14. Would just limit the number of LiL HD cities they could do on spot beams until they can move E8.
The could for example do top 10-20 cities and the rest would have to use 2 dishs or wait for E11 to get up to free up E8. E8 at most could probably do 25 cities. The entire system is really going to be limited in LiL until another spot beam satellite goes up. The only way around it would be one dish pointed to the new system, and another dish pointed for your LiL.
The could for example do top 10-20 cities and the rest would have to use 2 dishs or wait for E11 to get up to free up E8. E8 at most could probably do 25 cities. The entire system is really going to be limited in LiL until another spot beam satellite goes up. The only way around it would be one dish pointed to the new system, and another dish pointed for your LiL.
Why? You're making an assertion here that has no backing evidence.
Here's what's questionable.
1) We don't know how many new channels will be available in the time window between when D* new sat goes live and when E* has E11 ready to use.
2) We don't know for certain what Dish could do to get more capacity in the interim.
You are taking the approach that D* has already won and they haven't. This is a marathon not a sprint; and Dish has good faith with their existing customers due to the fact that they have been offering substantially more HD than D* for a few years now.
So a short term advantage; which is all D* might have isn't a big deal. Long term is another story.
Cheers,
guys, let me ask something. if any of you have a list of appropriate satellite websites that would have pertinent launch information available, what satellites dish is suppose to launch and want to pm me, i would be more than happy to try and get info. i'm not a dish subscriber, so i'm really in the dark whom to contact.
but since i'm the unofficial press contact, i'm willing to give it a rip! thanks.
but since i'm the unofficial press contact, i'm willing to give it a rip! thanks.
True enough but if DIRECTV does launch all that they say that they will have in Sept. and through out the rest of the year , and DISH can't add due to bandwith restraints or the fact that not all hd is in mpeg 4 yet, then you will see them fall behind, if the new sat isn't launched till March of 2008. There is nothing stopping Directv from seizing the opportunity to add all that they can in hd in that Spring time window , while DISH is either waiting to launch or testing the launced satellite. That window may be all they need to get out in front and claim the leader in HD before DISH can either even the score or surpase them again in hd channels. DUring that window of time a whole lot of new hd subs could be added to Directv and a whole lot of DISH subs can be churned as well .
Who really cares who the leader is. Unless you have a financial interest in either DBS company then who really cares who has more. I'm amazed at why so many people here live and die by the number of HD channels any one provider has over another. HD is no different than SD other than the picture is better; and we already know how many SD channels the average person pays for and never watches. Both E*, D* and cable will all succeed in adding new HD channels. The one who will benefit the most, IMO, is the one who "clearly" steps up picture quality. Unfortunately, we won't know this until later this year. Until that time, you can speculate all you want because no one here knows what will be 6 months from now.
Don't Panic. There's a lot more to this than HD "leadership".
First, a small minority of DBS/Cable subscribers have HD. On my block in a typical upper-middle-class Chicago Suburb, less than 20% have HDTV service. I am a partner is a geeky technology consultancy (lots of early adopters), and only four of 25 people have HD (two of them also have iPhones). So for a lot of people, it just does not matter.
Then let's look at the 622 committment. By my math, mine runs out in like June of next year. So will I switch if Directv is the "Leader". Only if:
1) A couple of my favorite channels are available in HD, carried by Directv and not available on Dish
AND
2) Those channels carry a significant portion of their programming in HD.
For instance, I am a Gear Head. SpeedTV will be in HD at some point. IF next year Dish does not carry SpeedTV in HD, Directv does AND Speed is carrying things like MotoGP and Formula 1 and Speed World Challenge races in HD (no sure bet by the way!), THEN I might consider switching.
But of course, D* will probably be more expensive, so that may stop me, as well as the library of grap I will no doubt have on my Dish External HDs.
For now, Dish is expanding and picking up most of the Big Popular HD channels that I want in HD (Like Discovery Networks and History), so at that point I am relatively happy. I am looking forward to the External Hard Drive options.
Do I wish they had Comcast Sports Net Chicago in HD? Sure. But at least half of every team's games are available in HD to me via other channels. There is ESPN and Turner and there is WCIU and WGN, for which I have an antenna. I am more upset that I needed to put up the antenna for PBS HD because Dish does not do LIL for PBS stations.
First, a small minority of DBS/Cable subscribers have HD. On my block in a typical upper-middle-class Chicago Suburb, less than 20% have HDTV service. I am a partner is a geeky technology consultancy (lots of early adopters), and only four of 25 people have HD (two of them also have iPhones). So for a lot of people, it just does not matter.
Then let's look at the 622 committment. By my math, mine runs out in like June of next year. So will I switch if Directv is the "Leader". Only if:
1) A couple of my favorite channels are available in HD, carried by Directv and not available on Dish
AND
2) Those channels carry a significant portion of their programming in HD.
For instance, I am a Gear Head. SpeedTV will be in HD at some point. IF next year Dish does not carry SpeedTV in HD, Directv does AND Speed is carrying things like MotoGP and Formula 1 and Speed World Challenge races in HD (no sure bet by the way!), THEN I might consider switching.
But of course, D* will probably be more expensive, so that may stop me, as well as the library of grap I will no doubt have on my Dish External HDs.
For now, Dish is expanding and picking up most of the Big Popular HD channels that I want in HD (Like Discovery Networks and History), so at that point I am relatively happy. I am looking forward to the External Hard Drive options.
Do I wish they had Comcast Sports Net Chicago in HD? Sure. But at least half of every team's games are available in HD to me via other channels. There is ESPN and Turner and there is WCIU and WGN, for which I have an antenna. I am more upset that I needed to put up the antenna for PBS HD because Dish does not do LIL for PBS stations.
