Well
arlo, don't complain about it because #1, it's my personality and writing style just like I don't go criticizing your personality and writing style. I am a science major as an Astrophysicist with a Ph.D. and someone who is into computers at all levels. I never claimed to be a liberal arts major or being perfect in the English language, in either the American or British variety. If you want perfection, retain a lawyer or someone who actually majors in writing with perfection. What matters is I am trying to be helpful and explain things to you so you will atleast understand it using the best of my abilities as I am also a Toastmasters International member so my replies are more about being accurate and competent after performing due diligence and if I am wrong or unsure, you will see my remarks about that as well. I do not have time to spend slowly correcting it because each minute of my time is atleast $US25 of income so if you want it your way, you can pay me to correct it because you do realize I type the entire thing in less than 5 minutes flat or you can also go to Burger King where you can have it your way. Don't know about you but in the early to mid-1980s, for things like CompuServe, The Source, GEnie where the chat room has 200 plus people, you would on a monochrome Hercules/CGA/EGA CRT see 5 lines every 1/2 second in real-time which did not offer anyway to scroll back, you had to learn to be fast and read everything which for postings here, you can really take your time and read at your leisure... 1% now, 2% later, the next 10% 3 hours later and so on, like read 5% of the post every 3 weeks or 3 years if you really wanted to.
And remember I have a broken "T" key on my notebook's keyboard so it adds even more difficulty as I get frustrated everytime I hit the "T" key which takes several strikes before it will recognize it once with "T" key landing somewhere else on the keyboard which I have to then have to put back in the correct spot. Another thing is this forum when typing the message can freeze the browser tab because randomly, the forums firewall will block me so I have to first clear the cache and cookies for this specific site as mentioned in post(s) #203 and #204 in this thread:
New Server - Issues and Reports
After that, I will have to login again and in the case of this post, I had to type everything again from scratch using the memory in my head as the other option would have been to just post whatever content was in it first and then edit to add but that would not work as my thoughts when writing is in my hands as my brain is always atleast two sentence behind my hands typing and if I did that, then those thoughts would be gone.
Other than that, realize that the State of California's tax deadline where I am located has been extended from April 16, 2023 for both 1RS and State of California to October 16, 2023 and I am trying to manually copy and paste a few hundred lines of transactions from February 28, 2022 to now for almost 100 different accounts at different financial brokerage firms and also banks into Microsoft Money Portfolio Manager by manually inputting each transaction so I am also working on time constraints and taking a break by reading the forums by commenting and trying to help others out. What
Bobby said is true since if you look at the title of the thread, it did ask for experienced users meaning someone who has personal experience with the DISH DVR which you do not. Not talking from a personal level but when you look at a few of the other EHD questions like from
ppappas for example, not the one where I started the thread, your answers always talk about using the EHDD on a computer with Linux on it when the question is related to using it on a DISH DVR of the model being discussed. I don't mind if you do it because it's an interesting discussion but the OP may or may not like it because if it was a non-computer literate person, it's almost like me talking about rocket science which is way about your level and basically sounds almost like listening to foreign language that the reader does not even understand. And another thing is you do know that for electronic communications, there are rules and standards for that as well that people had always used since the atleast the early 1980s and it's called netiquette as seen here:
The Core Rules of Netiquette -- Excerpted from Netiquette by Virginia Shea -- Albion.com
and what is not mentioned in the rules using your reply above are:
1) Excessive Quoting as the quoted content is a big portion of your actual post and in your case, it's probably 99% as your response is nothing more than your comment and a photo.
2) Using one liner replies when the post adds no value to the actual discussion as this would follow forum rules on the internet in general:
"No useless posts, e.g., thread bumping, useless one liners, junk posting to increase post count, and identical multi-postings in different forums."
3) In your responses to
Bobby and also
bookworm370 in I believe this thread, as a friend, last thing I would want is you to get in trouble with this forum as per forum rules:
Official SatelliteGuys Rules - Updated October 2nd, 2013
"II. Forum Rules
B. Unacceptable Forum Behavior
1. Flaming
Flaming is considered the angry or abusive behavior toward another forum member. This takes the form of calling another member insulting or offensive names, but can also take the form of other insults or derogatory statements, including derogatory statements about race, religion, gender, sexual identity or other characteristics.
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and lastly, your actual one liner comment... You are correct that
Almighty1 is another name for god and also dog when the later is spelled backwards.
Now back to the actual discussion thread so it's not off-topic in compliance with forum rules:
sktrus asked the following and other than for the things below, everyone else already answered what I would have said one way or another...
"2- There is no such thing as copying. Right? You move them. The recordings are no longer available in Hopper3's internal drive. (I see no reason to have 2 copies anyway. The whole purpose is having more space .)"
Actually there is in a way because when you move, the operation should be as follows and I could be wrong:
Copy from source to destination until 100%, verifies either while copying or after copying to make sure the destination copy is identical to the source copy with CRC checks or something or atleast I hope it does that then it deletes only after 100% has been copied. As explained earlier, if it copied in the following scenarios:
1) Copies to 65% (a randomly picked number to use as a example) and something interrupted it like the process hanged, there was a power outage, the box was rebooted using either red button reset or menu, power cord was pulled
2) It shows a message that says the transfer which I don't remember if it said completed but it also would say contains errors in the same message
In all the above scenarios, it appears the EHDD will not have the 65% of the recording there after rebooting but you will find 100% of the recording still on the original internal HDD of the Hopper 3 DVR so it appears to only delete the file after the transfer/move which is more copy to 100% then deleting.
"3- Let's say you watch few shows (moved to ehd). You are ready to delete them. Can you delete them when they are still in ehd? Or, do I need to move them back to Hopper3 first and delete?"
You can delete them while they are still on the EHDD as others have pointed out. Only thing I believe no one has mentioned and apologies if I somehow missed that is unlike the Hopper 3 internal HDD when you delete, it's a permanent deletion meaning it will not land in the trash can which is similar to Windows Recycle Bin so there is no recovery option if you accidentally deleted something, it's basically the same as selecting item(s) and then pressing Shift+Delete keys in Windows which is a permanent delete that will delete without going into the Recycle Bin first so be more cautious when deleting on the EHDD as once gone, it's gone.
"4- WD ehd will come as a formatted drive from the manufacturer. Do I need to format it with my computer first and change it to fat32 or ntfc, and connect it to hub/Hopper3 and let hopper3 format it again? I am assuming Hopper3 will always require its own formating. Am I right?"
The EHDD usually comes formatted for Windows which is what the Hopper 3 needs to see before it will give you the format option on the Hopper 3. I heard there is a folder with some software/tools you may want to make a backup copy of in Windows first which I was unaware of so I always just plug the WDC EHDD into the DISH Hopper 3 and let it do it's formatting. If the DISH Hopper 3 does not give you the option to format, then what you need to do is in Windows 10/11, delete all existing partitions and create a single simple partition using NTFS for the full space of the drive and use all defaults, the formatting part is not required as mines refused to format in Windows 10/11 when I tried this extensively a few days ago so somehow you seem to ask the questions at the right time as it's from recent experience so it seems all the DISH Hopper 3 really wants to see is the EHDD does not have the ext3fs partitions on it such as NTFS as I don't think it even checks if the drive was formatted or not, what it really cares about is the EHDD has a partition that is not compatible with the DISH Hopper 3 and then it will basically delete all the partitions on the drive and partition the EHDD with multiple ext3fs partitions so you can use it. What I have not verified is if the DISH Hopper 3 would offer to format if you connected a EHDD with no partitions of any kind on it as in deleting all existing partitions while in Windows.
