espn fires bb2n cohost Harold reynolds

Although I too liked HR; these days, there is almost always some known history, documentation of such, and some sort of verbal followed by written warning before things come to this. Where I agree (or should say inclined to believe) what HR says his take is; you just can't talk to, be within earshot of, be alone with, or touch co-worker these days. ESPECIALLY if you are in any high-profile or public position.

Be sure to thank the good old liberal PC society we have created for ourselves. Its a damn joke; don't get me started.
 
GUYS...let's get the facts before we start blaming ESPN or the 'liberal pc society'. We more than likely will never know the complete truth, but I doubt ESPN would fire their BEST baseball analyst(by default since Gammons is recoperating) unless they had something legit. And I have my sources from my old days working in Chicago Fox Sports...I was told it was legit. Actually, I was told he had gotten warnings about staying away from someone and for some reason he didn't.
 
ESPN is a hypocrite. There's yet to be a commentary as to why HR was fired on their network. Yet, if it was another analyst from another company, they would be all over it.
 
salsadancer7 said:
GUYS...let's get the facts before we start blaming ESPN or the 'liberal pc society'. We more than likely will never know the complete truth, but I doubt ESPN would fire their BEST baseball analyst(by default since Gammons is recoperating) unless they had something legit. And I have my sources from my old days working in Chicago Fox Sports...I was told it was legit. Actually, I was told he had gotten warnings about staying away from someone and for some reason he didn't.

I am not blaming liberal PC for him getting fired, I said we have them to thank for creating the "isolation" environments we all must live in today. We can't talk to, be within earshot of, be alone with, or touch co-worker these days; regardless of the intent, without a 24/7/365 traveling witness/bodyguard accompanying us. Everyone is looking for their payday through the hyper-sensitive legal system and ignorant juries.

Most humans still want to be social and enjoy the company of their fellow humans. Enjoy humor of all types, engage in debate, and interact with emotions like hugs and pats on the back, etc. BUT the above has rendered this unacceptable and we are all supposed to act like drones without any emotions and only interact when asked to or required to by law.

Now was HR's original intent to just be social like he says and misinterpreted? Maybe. This is were the above came into play; or did he really harass? The above brings the two way too close together and harder to distinguish. Back in the day we all new what was inappropriate and what was a well intended hug of compassion or friendship; these days you just can't do that because you just don't know anymore!

HOWEVER, once he received ANY verbal or written warning to stay away; then he was screwed; and surely should have never been involved with that person ever again; at least not without a bodyguard.

JUNK!
 
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I am just going to say that the person that told me(from my old Chicago Fox Sports days) works for ESPN(for at least 5 yeas now) and he said that he came on a tad too strong to someone in the offices, was told to stay away and he didn't listen. Now Sean what you say is very true and very typical of ALL stations. ESPN is NOT going to embarass themselves by stating HR was fired due to sexual harassment and neither will ANY OTHER station. Another example of that was a very popular weather man down here was busted in a child pornography sting when he drove up to West Palm Beach to supposedly "counsel a young man with emotional problems". Well he was busted with codoms and a ton of child porn in his car. The local FOX affiliate didn't say a WORD...and WSVN down here is known as the tabloid of all tabloids in south Florida. Yet EVERY sation in THE STATE picked up on the story(and so did alot of national outlets) and ran wild with it. So like I said Sean, no biggie cause any other TV station would have done the same.
 
charper1 said:
I am not blaming liberal PC for him getting fired, I said we have them to thank for creating the "isolation" environments we all must live in today. We can't talk to, be within earshot of, be alone with, or touch co-worker these days; regardless of the intent, without a 24/7/365 traveling witness/bodyguard accompanying us. Everyone is looking for their payday through the hyper-sensitive legal system and ignorant juries.

Most humans still want to be social and enjoy the company of their fellow humans. Enjoy humor of all types, engage in debate, and interact with emotions like hugs and pats on the back, etc. BUT the above has rendered this unacceptable and we are all supposed to act like drones without any emotions and only interact when asked to or required to by law.

Now was HR's original intent to just be social like he says and misinterpreted? Maybe. This is were the above came into play; or did he really harass? The above brings the two way too close together and harder to distinguish. Back in the day we all new what was inappropriate and what was a well intended hug of compassion or friendship; these days you just can't do that because you just don't know anymore!

HOWEVER, once he received ANY verbal or written warning to stay away; then he was screwed; and surely should have never been involved with that person ever again; at least not without a bodyguard.

JUNK!

Charper1....to me, being politically correct and sexual harassment are two different animals. If you are saying something that would be considered derogatory to them...to me that is being a tad too PC. Now, if you start either touching someone that does not want to be touched or constantly are coming up some kind sexual comment....well that is sexual harassment.

Now I am sure someone(like they ALWAYS do) is gonna come up some kind of dictionary term and post. Folks, I don't know about you all, but I seldom go by dictionary term of certain things. You don't need to be precise to argue a point.
 
Look, you are not reading what I am typing. I am NOT saying they are the same. What I am saying is that our overly PC society has brought the two way to close together (social contact/non-harassing contact and inappropriate contact), and made them less distinguishable and made it far too easy for someone to claim sexual harassment was intended; when in many cases it is not, thus putting way too much pressure on a company to do something right then, right now. I follow that up with; once he was told (if he was told) to leave "X" alone, and stay away, even if is was not harassment, he should have done so no matter what!
 
He WAS fired for Sexual Harassment after MANY warnings. Then something happened over the weekend and the woman filed a complaint and he was immediately fired.
 
We can't say for sure why Harold Reynolds was fired from ESPN yesterday, because ESPN hasn't put out a statement or anything (and they don't have to), but we can tell you what the chatter in Bristol is: Everyone is hearing sexual harassment. Every single email we've received from the inside about this today has used those very two words.

Again, nothing concrete on this. But that is definitely what they're whispering in Bristol. Some highlights:

• Thirdhand info, but I'm told it's sexual harassment. There were allegations of inappropriate actions between him and female PAs on a couple different occasions, so I'm not entirely shocked.

• It's apparently sexual harassment, but no one knows who the victim was. It went down over the course of the weekend.

• I have on good authority that HR was fired for all things, hitting on girls. Allegedly, this has been going on for a while. The last straw was when a new PA was having none of what Harold had to offer and turned him in.

• Harold Reynolds was fired more or less for copious amounts of sexual harassment. Apparently, he brazenly hits on female employees constantly, despite the fact that his wife just had a kid six months ago. He was warned by the big-wigs on numerous occasions to cool it with the ladies, but someone finally lodged a complaint, and he was canned immediately.

• It's very difficult to get fired from ESPN. It takes multiple offenses ... they're usually so worried about getting sued for unlawful termination that people are suspended multiple times for the same repeated behavior before it finally comes to getting fired. Within the walls of the campus, there are only a few on-air talent guys that had an honest reputation as being overly friendly with the ladies, and HR was one of them.

So anyway, that's what they're saying on the Bristol campus. But since ESPN doesn't have to say anything -- in-house or otherwise -- and neither does Reynolds, we might never know for sure. (No announcement, we're told, has been made to the staff.) That's what they're saying, though; we didn't receive a single email suggesting anything but that.

But that's not what we're saying, because we don't know. To be clear.

Say Goodnight, Harold [Deadspin]

(UPDATE: Another reader, with "contacts on the inside," refutes the sexual harassment whispers: "Anyone who is saying sexual harassment either has been given bad third-hand info or is lying. Harold has had a couple of rather heated arguments with the producers at "Baseball Tonight," and some of the suits at ESPN over the program's coverage of Alex Rodriguez. At the last production meeting, when it was made clear they were going to really play up the A-Rod angle during coverage of the Yankees-Texas series, Harold had a colossal meltdown, which led to his dismissal. The sexual harassment allegations are even more laughable when you consider that he is being replaced by Steve Phillips -- a man who has never met a skirt he wouldn't chase and who was caught in one of the more embarrassing front office sexual harassment scandals in MLB history."

True? Not true? This, like the rest of it, just reinforces our point: We don't know. And the longer ESPN pretends like nothing happened, like they're a corner shop with three employees, believing this stuff can possibly remain private, the more talk there will be. Still, this is the lone "it's not sexual harassment email" we've received.)

(SECOND UPDATE: Various other sources, including Pro Football Talk and The Big Lead are confirming the sexual harassment story.)

(THIRD UPDATE: And now Newsday has confirmed it as well.)

Here is the link.

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/espn/was-this-why-harold-got-the-axe-189733.php
 
OMG he was the best one they had. They are going to can the best analyst they have because he allegedly asked a girl out on a date? So you rub 3 or 4 women the wrong way over the years and they report you for some bologna and you get canned. I sure hope they need witnessess for this Bullsh!t.
 
vurbano said:
OMG he was the best one they had. They are going to can the best analyst they have because he allegedly asked a girl out on a date? So you rub 3 or 4 women the wrong way over the years and they report you for some bologna and you get canned. I sure hope they need witnessess for this Bullsh!t.

We are ALL going on our OWN speculations. Hell, I have a source on the inside(that I use to work with and now works AT ESPN) and even then, the ONLY one that will really know ALL the facts is Reynolds and the woman....that's it. I will trust my source over anyone elses. He said he had been told to back off from a woman that wanted nothing to do with him...and he wouldn't after MANY warnings. I he had also mention the disagreements he had with management....so maybe it was a combination of everything.

But I agree with Charper1....if he was warned and didn't listen, he DESERVED to be fired.