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macgod79

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Hey guys I've finally got it put together after a week of trying. I didn't think id ever get it. Now I'm almost ready for the 2nd step.I need help with my angles and elevation settings.I'm posting some pics so maybe you guys can double check me. This is my first ever satellite install so I'm confused. I have my inclimeter I bought I just don't know where to get my settings.what is zenith and azimith.I'm gonna get cracking on it again in the morning.also I have the wsi 6 foot special if it helps.please help me get it going guys.my zip is 27976
 

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billyboy_1

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Looks like you are good to start aiming. Make sure to take your TV & receiver out to the dish. The azimuth angle is measured clockwise from north. The Zenith angle is measured verticle and elevation is measured up from horizon. In simple terms, The azimuth is left to right or east to west and the elevaltion is up from the ground. So the azimuth would be adjusted by turning the dish on the pole and of course the elevation is adjusted by the threaded rod. Find a satellite with the dish looking due south and peak the elevation then swing it west and turn it on the pole til you find a satellite. Keep going up to adjust elevation and down(west) to adjust azimuth. When you can track the satellites on the arc by just swinging the dish east and west, you have it.
 

FaT Air

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macgod79

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Ok so azimuth is the actual turning of the mount on my pole.how do I get my declination angle set.so first I turn the azimuth to I get to my tru south I can use my inclination meter to set my elevation but where do I need to set it I'm lost on it but I'm learning a little bit as time goes on.I do have the dishpointer android appear.how accurate is that
 

billyboy_1

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Ok so azimuth is the actual turning of the mount on my pole.how do I get my declination angle set.so first I turn the azimuth to I get to my tru south I can use my inclination meter to set my elevation but where do I need to set it I'm lost on it but I'm learning a little bit as time goes on.I do have the dishpointer android appear.how accurate is that
You should be able to use one of the calculators to find the elevation for your area. The elevation for all of the satellites will be the same. And yes the turning of the dish on the pole is the azimuth adjustment. My dish has the declination built into the hub so mine is not adjustable however it is 4 degrees. That adjustment is not a big deal.
 

FaT Air

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Again the declination is no huge deal.
oOh Contrair, the declination is a big deal. without it being correct, tracking the whole arc, accurately, is next to impossible. Declination is "built in" and never adjusted during tune up, unless measured angles are inaccurate*. Go here, Footprints by Dish Size - Latitude Declination Chart - C/Ku-Band Satellite Listing find your latitude on the second chart. use the picture as a reference and set your declination equal to the "declination offset" on that chart. then your polar mount to your latitude, rotate the mount on the pole and find your Zenith sat, tweak your polar elevation, and go from there. Final azimuth adjustment is done at a satellite off towards the horizon. Outlined in the BUD Manual. Again, the Declination offset ( or just "declination")is the difference between polar and dish elevation, or the "extreme elevation and your latitude" as shown in the picture. *there's a solution to getting it(declination)"Right On" if declination angle measurement inaccuracies occurs (azimuth adjustment is not the same on an eastern and western satellite).
 

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macgod79

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From what I see from the chart my declination should be 6.7 am I correct on that. Can someone confirm?
 

Lak7

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You want to use the "Modified Polar Mount" chart

Here is the site I use...
Satellite finder, how to point dish with magnetic north, azimuth and elevation program calculator.

Enter you Location, Long and Lat (36.5, -76.3) and enter -76.3 for the Sat location
You should get a Declination of 5.15 and 37.18 for the Main Axis angle
Then measuring the angle on the back of the Dish, you should have 47.65.
Keep in mind that is it results that count.....
Set the angles the best you can, then adjust only the Azimuth and Elevation first. Do not adjust the Declination until you determine that Sat to the far East and West need the same correction.... the Dish is tracking too high or too low.
It's a little tougher when you do not have a Sat very close to your Location (Longitude).

You can use this site to help aiming......
http://www.dishpointer.com/
Enter your exact location, and select True South for the Satellite
 

macgod79

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I just seen your post lak7 ill try that rain is gonna soon get me I think.also I don't have my gbox till Monday it was on backorder and its making it hard.I just want to be able to get 105 till then so my x4 channels will work
 

macgod79

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Openbox s9 and dmx 741u.I have had the nfusion nova out there since lunch in case it started raining real bad.trying to get 105 pointed
 

Lak7

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You do know that you can't use an FTA receiver to lock 4DTV / HITS signals?
You should manually enter a known hot TP for a given sat, for 105, the is only 1 DVB C Band TP:
3780 H 30000
 
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macgod79

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Where should this be if I'm starting out.say like if I'm trying to get 105 till I get my gbox
 

macgod79

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Forgot the pic
 

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billyboy_1

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Macgod I didnt mean to confuse you when I said that the declination was not a big deal. It is the one setting that you won't have to peak and tweak like the other two settings. Once you are tracking the arc then you have it. Most dishes don't have the declination adjustment. The one I have is built into the hub at 4 degrees and works perfectly anywhere in the northern hemisphere.
 

macgod79

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Ok so is that screw and nut my polar angle.so do I set this at my true south.I've been just setting the elevation screw only.hmm do I take 90- my lattitude and that gives me that angle.where do measure that angle cause I can't figure it out.I'm trying lol
 
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