For those thinking 5G will fix the rural broadband gap

harshness

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It's really no worse than saying you live "in the West" and people are thinking Chicago or St. Louis.

The Internet isn't helping people understand their spatial relationships. People in Vermont have no idea what it is like to drive for 1,000 miles and still be in Texas.
 

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Only when they drive through 4 ft of snow...it feels like thousands of miles
It's really no worse than saying you live "in the West" and people are thinking Chicago or St. Louis.

The Internet isn't helping people understand their spatial relationships. People in Vermont have no idea what it is like to drive for 1,000 miles and still be in Texas.
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Only when they drive through 4 ft of snow...it feels like thousands of miles
I don't imagine that most of Vermont gets that kind of snow in one shot and for those who need to be out in it, it is pretty routine.

The National Weather Service says that the record Vermont snowfall was 33.1".
 
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broadband is over rated..its like inviting big brother into your life and yet we pay for the privlidge
I use broadband, and I try not to let it use me. Avoiding the obvious things like Facebook is easy. Avoiding Google is a lot harder, so I limit it where I can. Even with my ISP (AT&T), they intercept DNS requests, even to third party DNS servers. They sell this information to advertisers who use it to target ads at me and my wife. We hardly see any ads due to various methods we employ, so their information on us is mostly useless to them, but I don't like them having it. I could run a VPN to avoid some of this, but it wouldn't prevent plenty of other tracking and targeting, so why bother? Big Brother is here and that is a fact of life unless you avoid the Internet. All you can do is minimize the impact.
 

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Ever here of drifting snow?....
I don't imagine that most of Vermont gets that kind of snow in one shot and for those who need to be out in it, it is pretty routine.

The National Weather Service says that the record Vermont snowfall was 33.1".
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I don't imagine that most of Vermont gets that kind of snow in one shot and for those who need to be out in it, it is pretty routine.

The National Weather Service says that the record Vermont snowfall was 33.1".
You have apparently never lived in real snow country. As Juan noted, snow can drift a lot. Even here in southern CT I have seen five foot drifts.
 
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Yeah, but does it go anywhere, or just out to a septic tank?
The soil drains good here so we are able to use a conventional septic system. Which is a septic tank and a chamber pipe leach field.

In parts of PA and I'm sure other parts of the country where the ground doesn't perc so well. They use elaborate sand mound systems and pumps. Not only are they an eye sore they can cost 10k-20k for installation.
 
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It's not the technology, it's what's done with it- broadband technology on it's own is amoral. It's a utility. It's what people do (or don't do) with it that matters.
I've been a member of Binance for about 4 months now...Suddenly, Uncle Sam/Tom....has decided that Americans are just too stupid to trade crypto..and we should be "protected" from the evil crypto-wielding world where there is monetary freedom and choices...so as of September 12, binance will be cutting ALL traffic from the US and stopping trading from people with US accounts. You can still withdraw your money, but no deposits and no trading.

I use broadband, and I try not to let it use me. Avoiding the obvious things like Facebook is easy. Avoiding Google is a lot harder, so I limit it where I can. Even with my ISP (AT&T), they intercept DNS requests, even to third party DNS servers. They sell this information to advertisers who use it to target ads at me and my wife. We hardly see any ads due to various methods we employ, so their information on us is mostly useless to them, but I don't like them having it. I could run a VPN to avoid some of this, but it wouldn't prevent plenty of other tracking and targeting, so why bother? Big Brother is here and that is a fact of life unless you avoid the Internet. All you can do is minimize the impact.
PureVPN for me..I've been using it to create accounts on Kucoin and Bybit...since we're not allowed in America to do leverage trading with crypto...
It really irks me that we can be "a little" free, but not financially free...if we're not strapped to the dollar then they aint having it. I own BTC and will continue to own BTC, among other spot trades that are profitable...and for now, I just trade into the ones that TA charts say are about to run, then trade out when they go up..wash, rinse, repeat.
 

harshness

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Even here in southern CT I have seen five foot drifts.
Do these drifts appear often in the middle of travel lanes?

Back in '69 I remember a drift beside a car that was about 4' but that kind of snow (powder?) usually moves pretty easily and is not too difficult to drive around in (unless it ices over). It is the wet sloppy snow (the kind we typically get around here) that I have trouble with navigating.

Don't get me started on the "Subarubes".
 

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Do these drifts appear often in the middle of travel lanes?

Back in '69 I remember a drift beside a car that was about 4' but that kind of snow (powder?) usually moves pretty easily and is not too difficult to drive around in (unless it ices over). It is the wet sloppy snow (the kind we typically get around here) that I have trouble with navigating.

Don't get me started on the "Subarubes".
With enough snowfall and if the roads haven't been plowed yet, of course. But since the roads are plowed, unless it's a blizzard, not often.
 

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Do these drifts appear often in the middle of travel lanes?

Back in '69 I remember a drift beside a car that was about 4' but that kind of snow (powder?) usually moves pretty easily and is not too difficult to drive around in (unless it ices over). It is the wet sloppy snow (the kind we typically get around here) that I have trouble with navigating.

Don't get me started on the "Subarubes".
of course it does..when the wind blows....look up "whiteout"

You can't see anything in this whiteout during winter storm
 

harshness

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of course it does..when the wind blows....look up "whiteout"
That yoyo was covering some ground nonetheless. At that rate, you could probably cross Vermont in less than five hours (assuming it was whiteout for the duration).

Crossing Texas is going to take around 12 hours if the weather is fair and you and your travel companions don't stop except for gas (you'll likely have to fill up at least twice).

Google "travel time across texas".
 

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You might get 5 miles in a hour....you truly have no idea about snow
That yoyo was covering some ground nonetheless. At that rate, you could probably cross Vermont in less than five hours (assuming it was whiteout for the duration).

Crossing Texas is going to take around 12 hours if the weather is fair and you and your travel companions don't stop except for gas (you'll likely have to fill up at least twice).

Google "travel time across texas".
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unless it's a blizzard, not often
We had the earliest blizzard in recorded history here in November of last year. I was caught in it during the last 15 miles of my trip home from work. Took me nearly 2 1/2 hours to go 15 miles. It was terrifying and I couldn't see more than a few feet in front of the car.

I'm used to driving in snow, having grown up in west-central Ohio. But in a blizzard, there's nothing you can do- it's a complete whiteout.
 

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